Excuse me, but what do the Habs have to do with my correction of the year and the lesson that can be learned from that year for leafs fans.
Geez, just laughable !! Unbeleafable !!
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Excuse me, but what do the Habs have to do with my correction of the year and the lesson that can be learned from that year for leafs fans.
Geez, just laughable !! Unbeleafable !!
Hey BUDDY, I am a hockey fan. Most of my posts are to correct delusional facts, statements and mostly spoil the parade 15 games in the season.
The way both of you debate is kind of like my ex. and that is by throwing it back in my face. Rather silly don't you think. Speaking of selective memory, here is one you will soon forget, that the leafs were beat 4-0, where outshoot 47-21 ?
That is not all, they have been outshoot 13 of the last 15 games. Oh and Kessel dropped his stick tonight.
Stop puffing up your chests, your team has serious problems defensively and it will catch up. And by the way, I know, I know, it happened to the Habs.
P.S. I love The Wings, Hawks, Penguins, Habs and the Bruins. Tall order, eh buddy ? Not all in that order.
The way both of you debate is kind of like my ex. and that is by throwing it back in my face. Rather silly don't you think. Speaking of selective memory, here is one you will soon forget, that the leafs were beat 4-0, where outshoot 47-21 ?
That is not all, they have been outshoot 13 of the last 15 games. Oh and Kessel dropped his stick tonight.
Stop puffing up your chests, your team has serious problems defensively and it will catch up. And by the way, I know, I know, it happened to the Habs.
P.S. I love The Wings, Hawks, Penguins, Habs and the Bruins. Tall order, eh buddy ? Not all in that order.
LOL!
[video=youtube;RrwBaJZawO0]Kessel Getting Ass Kicked[/video]
Wow, I guess the refs know what a pussy Kessel is without his stick. They sure jumped in extremely fast to stop Kessel from getting his face totally reshaped by Burrows. Geeeeeeeeez, one ref covered Kessel like he was Kessel's mother.
You guys sure are silly arguing over which team is winning and losing more. Montreal hasn't had a Cup since "93" and Toronto, well there were only 6 teams when they last won. No wonder Doc can't relate to the past, except when it suits him. Both sides are squabbling over the same thing, a lot of nothing happening. Here in Boston, THE CITY OF CHAMPIONS ( 8 championships in 12 years including the Stanley Cup 2 years ago), we think you guys are sooooooooooooooo cute. Here we don't squabble over who can spew more hot air. We're counting trophies. 1, 2, 3, 4,..................
Okay, carry on fighting over who is worse...CUTIES.
:eyebrows:
Merlot
[video=youtube;RrwBaJZawO0]Kessel Getting Ass Kicked[/video]
Wow, I guess the refs know what a pussy Kessel is without his stick. They sure jumped in extremely fast to stop Kessel from getting his face totally reshaped by Burrows. Geeeeeeeeez, one ref covered Kessel like he was Kessel's mother.
You guys sure are silly arguing over which team is winning and losing more. Montreal hasn't had a Cup since "93" and Toronto, well there were only 6 teams when they last won. No wonder Doc can't relate to the past, except when it suits him. Both sides are squabbling over the same thing, a lot of nothing happening. Here in Boston, THE CITY OF CHAMPIONS ( 8 championships in 12 years including the Stanley Cup 2 years ago), we think you guys are sooooooooooooooo cute. Here we don't squabble over who can spew more hot air. We're counting trophies. 1, 2, 3, 4,..................
Okay, carry on fighting over who is worse...CUTIES.
:eyebrows:
Merlot
Still better than the Habs being beat 4-1 on 30 shots!
Quite true, plus the fact Bordeleau nearly knocked out Parros again. I'm telling you, LA MOUSTACHE will retire before the end of the season.
So you couldn't handle it and wound up bailing out on her?
It is obvious, it when over you tiny head, you debate girly- like and not man to man. You can not even
defend your own team fella. Sad
On another note, I was watching the game on CBC Toronto vs Chicago and during the second period,
Craig button showed a clip of the second period where Chicago outshot the leafs 20 to 5 or 6 and DESERVINGLY WON.
He played it at high speed so as not to bore the viewers, such as me, of 15 minutes into a 45 second fast paced segment with music.
The song, for the life of me, I forget, NONETHELESS it was hilarious. The point he wanted to make was that the leafs never once passed the puck
to another team mate. 15 minutes or should I say 45 fast paced seconds of a team (leafs ) running around like CHICKENS WITH THERE HEADS CUT OFF.
Quite impressive. If you can't address your team's problems intelligently, than go play in your doll house.
Here is some friendly advice, Ballsman. You should consider going back to school to seriously improve on your grammar. One day, it might be easier to read what you write.
Just a thought.
p.s. my apologies if your grade 4 writing style is caused by a disability.
Just a thought.
p.s. my apologies if your grade 4 writing style is caused by a disability.
NHL dealing with more hockey violence this week
by Steve Simmons, Toronto Sun
Two days after Brian Burke wrote an impassioned defence of fighting in hockey in USA Today, Steve Downie was in hospital with a broken orbital bone, a possible concussion and Ray Emery has become the latest in a series of NHL embarrassments.
Burke's timing couldn't have been worse, coming just before Emery's unprovoked attack on Washington goalie Braden Holtby and Downie's first fight in his second go-round in Philadelphia, one that he put a stop to by verbally informing his opponent he was hurt.
Holtby, who took at least 10 punches to the head, didn't have that luxury in a sport now confused by its own advocates demanding that the book be thrown at Emery.
The pro-fighting people -- now a division among general managers -- believe a strong suspension for Emery is necessary, because his attack was outside their supposed boundaries. The NHL, however, without a rule to enforce, will not suspend Emery, making the divide between hockey executives all the more extreme and putting the onus on general managers to clear up rules and loopholes that currently exist and add some that don't.
The thought, as Burke expressed, that hockey polices itself and limits violence because of the inclusion of fighting is becoming more ridiculous by the day. Fighting doesn't police or prevent violence, as Bob McCown said on radio: It is the violence.
And now with another player in hospital, another shamed, the circus goes on. The clowns, it seems, are everywhere.
More hockey violence in NHL this week
Count me among those who are getting sick of the unecessary violence & especially the staged hockey fights in the NHL. Bring on the Olympics!
by Steve Simmons, Toronto Sun
Two days after Brian Burke wrote an impassioned defence of fighting in hockey in USA Today, Steve Downie was in hospital with a broken orbital bone, a possible concussion and Ray Emery has become the latest in a series of NHL embarrassments.
Burke's timing couldn't have been worse, coming just before Emery's unprovoked attack on Washington goalie Braden Holtby and Downie's first fight in his second go-round in Philadelphia, one that he put a stop to by verbally informing his opponent he was hurt.
Holtby, who took at least 10 punches to the head, didn't have that luxury in a sport now confused by its own advocates demanding that the book be thrown at Emery.
The pro-fighting people -- now a division among general managers -- believe a strong suspension for Emery is necessary, because his attack was outside their supposed boundaries. The NHL, however, without a rule to enforce, will not suspend Emery, making the divide between hockey executives all the more extreme and putting the onus on general managers to clear up rules and loopholes that currently exist and add some that don't.
The thought, as Burke expressed, that hockey polices itself and limits violence because of the inclusion of fighting is becoming more ridiculous by the day. Fighting doesn't police or prevent violence, as Bob McCown said on radio: It is the violence.
And now with another player in hospital, another shamed, the circus goes on. The clowns, it seems, are everywhere.
More hockey violence in NHL this week
Count me among those who are getting sick of the unecessary violence & especially the staged hockey fights in the NHL. Bring on the Olympics!
"The Buffalo Sabres have hired Randy Cunneyworth as a pro scout. Translation: They have hired the coach who will replace Ron Rolston, once he's inevitably let go."-------Steve Simmons, Toronto Sun
LOL,
So if Toronto wins the Cup with the American-born alleged Leafs superstar (as you boys keep insisting) Kessel, the leader of your team originally signed by the Bruins, it's some kind of fraud as your faux logic says. You didn't think that through did you. Reverdy, I thought your were slightly above silly lines of posting. Clearly not.
Your team currently has players from the U.S., Russia, Sweden, Germany, and all places in Canada. Your current top goalie is from Manitoba, and your next goalie is from Laval right outside Montreal. In fact only 9 of 29 players listed on your roster are from Ontario. That's barely 1 in 3; only 3 of 10 defencemen.
Of your top scorers the two at the top are American: Kessel - American, Riemsdyk - American, Lupul- Alberta, Raymond - Alberta, Franson - British Columbia, Phaneuf - Alberta, Bozak - Saskatchewan.
Wow!!! Imported indeed. Way to go Reverdy.
http://mapleleafs.nhl.com/club/roster.htm
WELCOME BACK IGGY!!! Let's all have good fun on Merb.
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Merlot
Reverdy,
Geeeez, one shutout against the Leafs and you get unhinged.
"None of the American players are from New England". I see. If they are from another country but not the New England area it's okay to be imported. BWAH! :lol:
Sophism? You're being ridiculous and a hypocrite. You posed the theme that having players on your team not home-grown is something wrong, "imported as you say". Where is it written that it's against the rules or wrong to pick and trade for the best players from anywhere. I have absolutely no problem with it. There's nothing wrong with building a team with the best possible players or managers from anywhere...as the rules say.
You were the one who used the pathetic "import" retort as a standard, and now you're embarrassed you failed to check that your own team has so many imports beyond Ontario. Then once caught you want to use the Canada-born or not New England grown is okay BS. How about aliens who happen to land in Ontario. :lol:
You setup the standard. Your own team fails it. You then contradict your standard. Then you accuse others of not following standards that are yours not ours. Talk about shady convenient Sophistry by you. You clearly don't understand or wish to follow any consistency in standards.
BTW...your pal setup the free-for-all, like so many such threads. Complain to him if you don't like them,
Silly Reverdy...VERY,
Merlot
BTW: this thread has been full of silly pissing long before I got here. See Doc, Iggy, Reverdy, JC.
OMG!
"City of Champions" is what bothered you? Okay maybe English isn't your strength. There isn't any connection to these CHAMPIONSHIPS being "homegrown" since any real sports fans knows his/her team and is well aware of the drafting sources and farm system building process, trades, and free agent signings.
You obviously needed to create a very bad cynical faux interpretation of my phrase to feel better about how lacking Toronto has been in hockey. I hope your city doesn't suffer much longer, but I have no sympathy for people who use such phoney BS. Dishonest Reverdy.
Good luck,
Merlot
Not likely anyone can save that mess going on in Buffalo. Miller will get moved this season for some more picks and/or prospects to help with the rebuild. Has Ville Leino even scored 10 goals since they overpaid for him some 3 years ago? Horrible signing by Darcy R.
Tyler Seguin flourishing in Dallas & why Bruins traded him
by Joe Haggery, Bruins insider
There will be plenty of vociferous critics of the Tyler Seguin trade to Dallas if the 21-year-old ends up lighting the lamp a couple of times against his former NHL team in Boston.
There are already more than a few dissenting voices out there after watching the skilled forward pile up six goals and 15 points in 14 games upon moving back to his natural center position with the Dallas Stars. But the common mistake made by many of those hindsight captains is that they buy the notion that the talented, immature Seguin was going to do any of those things while in Boston.
There were very real questions about the youngster’s ability to ever thrive as a core, 20-minute member of Claude Julien’s system that rewards attention paid to detail and competing for every one-on-one puck battle. The little things are every bit as important as the big ticket items to the Boston Bruins, and Seguin was always more of a big-picture kind of prospect.
There was every belief among B’s management Seguin would quickly turn into a 30-goal, 90-point type guy for a forever .500 team like the Stars. But with the points also comes a flawed player that’s barely in positive plus/minus who “wins” 37 percent of his face-offs.
The Bruins saw all they needed to see when Seguin soiled himself in his first two shifts at the Bell Centre while getting a chance to play center last season while Patrice Bergeron was down with a concussion.
Seguin is a flashy offensive producer with skating speed the Bruins are sorely lacking right now, but he was also the player Bruins management was the least loathe to lose when difficult offseason decisions needed to be made.
“We fully expected that Seguin would be a really good player in Dallas, and that’s what he’s doing right now,” said Peter Chiarelli, who clearly knew he’d be taking some heat this summer with Stanley Cup mainstays like Seguin, Rich Peverley, Nathan Horton and Andrew Ference all leaving the Bruins last offseason.
“Given the salary cap and the desire to keep other core players, there were moves we absolutely had to make this summer. You have to look at what we got back in return. Loui Eriksson is going to be a really good fit for us here, and Reilly Smith showed he’s got a high ceiling during training camp.
“It might be a couple of years for Joe Morrow to develop, but we believe he’s going to be a top-four defenseman in the NHL. Matt Fraser gave us some organizational depth along the wing.”
One thing the Bruins didn’t get: Alex Chiasson, the former BU hockey product they were pushing to receive from Dallas during trade talks before settling on Fraser.
The bottom line: As good as Seguin has been in Dallas, the belief is that certain things would always hold him back in Boston. He wasn’t diligent enough to win board battles as a winger, an area that’s hugely important to any Julien-coached team, and Seguin's hockey IQ wasn’t high enough to function as a multi-tasking center at both ends of the ice.
Julien answered a general question in recent days about junior players learning NHL battle levels, and it sounded like some of the Seguin experience was sprinkled into the B’s coach’s answer.
“It’s very common because, first of all, they’re dealing with stronger individuals. You hear a million times that they’re not dealing with men at this level rather than with 16-year-olds at the junior level,” said Julien. “Another problem is that they’re such good players, they can get away with things at their [junior] level that they won’t get away with here.
“Sometimes it can be a benefit for those guys confidence-wise, but then it can be a challenge to make the [NHL] jump when their skill and talent alone won’t get them through.
“Then you have to teach. But we’re okay with that, and we expect it though as long as they’re not stubborn, and open-minded enough to understand they’ve got things they need to improve on. Most guys are like that. But you do get the odd player that thinks they’re good enough to play the way they have their whole life. That’s when it becomes a challenge.”
Clearly there were enough reasons on the ice to deal Seguin, but they went far beyond his stat sheet.
The Bruins brushed off an incident years ago when Seguin came to the team nervous about a female threatening to release embarrassing pictures of the B’s winger if she wasn’t paid a hefty sum of money. Too much money and too much fame in a teenager’s life can result in those kinds of situations.
But those kinds of blips popped up all over Boston’s radar screen in Seguin’s final season with the team, a timeline of Seguin debacles that occurred after he signed a guaranteed six-year contract with the Bruins which would pay him $5.75 million per season.
He wasn’t yet making that big money in his final entry-level year with the Bruins, but his off-ice lifestyle took a turn for the worse once he knew his money was guaranteed.
His first couple of seasons in Boston, Seguin hung around with his Bruins teammates, most famously Brad Marchand, or a group of friends on the BU hockey team, including Chiasson and Minnesota Wild forward Charlie Coyle.
That changed toward the end of Seguin’s sophomore season, and by last season, a group of Seguin’s buddies moved down from Toronto and made themselves a fixture in the young Bruins superstar’s life.
Seguin’s Bruins teammates tried to steer the young forward away from his new entourage, whose members didn’t have the same responsibilities as an NHL player, and were doing a little more than just going out for a couple of beers on Friday nights.
But Seguin wouldn’t listen to the team, or his teammates who had walked down similar roads in their early twenties.
“We all tried to talk to him about it,” said one current Bruins player. “He thought these guys were his support system, but in reality they were bringing him down. You’ve really got to be smart about which are your real friends once you start making a little bit of money.”
The final straw was the Bruins’ suspicion Seguin was staying out late in his native Toronto during the first round of the playoffs. A source with knowledge of the situation confirmed the Bruins did indeed need a guard outside his hotel room to make certain he was obeying the team’s playoff curfew, a report that first appeared in the Boston Herald and was denied by Seguin’s mother.
Say what you will about Chicago star Pat Kane’s hijinks with the Blackhawks, but there were never any stories of misbehavior during Chicago’s playoff runs. Once a player is off the reservation during a postseason run for a Stanley Cup-caliber team, it’s a pretty short trip to being shipped out of town.
Seguin turned it around by the time the team faced Chicago in the Cup Finals, but it was way too late by then.
All of that stuff led to Seguin’s head-scratching comments in his first Dallas press conference lamenting that he was “the only single guy" on the Bruins, and his parents' very clumsy attempts to circle the wagons for a 21-year-old adult. It seems as if the wakeup call of getting traded from Boston has reconnected Seguin with his bearings on and off the ice. It was perhaps the kind of life-altering event that was going to shake him out of the world he’d created for himself.
“We worked with him a bit this summer, and he’s been nothing but good for us,” said Mark Recchi, Seguin’s former B’s teammates and a Special Assistant to the GM for the Dallas Stars. “He’s been joined at the hip with Jamie Benn since the season started, and obviously he’s been producing quite a bit for us on the ice. Jamie is a young, single guy that Segs can go out to dinner with on off nights, but he’s also a guy that’s really got a good head on his shoulders when it comes to being a good pro.”
That was the lament in Boston: Seguin wasn’t professional enough in a league that demands it, especially in a social media age where there aren’t that many secrets anymore.
The Bruins attempted to use ordinary hockey discipline when they suspended Seguin on the road in Winnipeg for missing a morning team meeting. That issue was compounded when his teammates were forced to cover up for Seguin when the youngster concocted a lame, nonsensical fib about the time-zone change on his cellphone causing him to oversleep.
The Bruins clearly felt like things were manageable at that point in the middle of Seguin’s second season while he was en route to becoming an All-Star. But that upward trajectory didn’t last into his final year in Boston.
Seguin's regression on and off the ice in his third and final season with the Black and Gold, as much as anything else, is what led Boston to make the difficult decision to let him move on.
The Bruins into a homecoming showdown with Seguin and his Stars on Tuesday night at TD Garden.
Seguin flourishing in Dallas & why Bruins traded him
by Joe Haggery, Bruins insider
There will be plenty of vociferous critics of the Tyler Seguin trade to Dallas if the 21-year-old ends up lighting the lamp a couple of times against his former NHL team in Boston.
There are already more than a few dissenting voices out there after watching the skilled forward pile up six goals and 15 points in 14 games upon moving back to his natural center position with the Dallas Stars. But the common mistake made by many of those hindsight captains is that they buy the notion that the talented, immature Seguin was going to do any of those things while in Boston.
There were very real questions about the youngster’s ability to ever thrive as a core, 20-minute member of Claude Julien’s system that rewards attention paid to detail and competing for every one-on-one puck battle. The little things are every bit as important as the big ticket items to the Boston Bruins, and Seguin was always more of a big-picture kind of prospect.
There was every belief among B’s management Seguin would quickly turn into a 30-goal, 90-point type guy for a forever .500 team like the Stars. But with the points also comes a flawed player that’s barely in positive plus/minus who “wins” 37 percent of his face-offs.
The Bruins saw all they needed to see when Seguin soiled himself in his first two shifts at the Bell Centre while getting a chance to play center last season while Patrice Bergeron was down with a concussion.
Seguin is a flashy offensive producer with skating speed the Bruins are sorely lacking right now, but he was also the player Bruins management was the least loathe to lose when difficult offseason decisions needed to be made.
“We fully expected that Seguin would be a really good player in Dallas, and that’s what he’s doing right now,” said Peter Chiarelli, who clearly knew he’d be taking some heat this summer with Stanley Cup mainstays like Seguin, Rich Peverley, Nathan Horton and Andrew Ference all leaving the Bruins last offseason.
“Given the salary cap and the desire to keep other core players, there were moves we absolutely had to make this summer. You have to look at what we got back in return. Loui Eriksson is going to be a really good fit for us here, and Reilly Smith showed he’s got a high ceiling during training camp.
“It might be a couple of years for Joe Morrow to develop, but we believe he’s going to be a top-four defenseman in the NHL. Matt Fraser gave us some organizational depth along the wing.”
One thing the Bruins didn’t get: Alex Chiasson, the former BU hockey product they were pushing to receive from Dallas during trade talks before settling on Fraser.
The bottom line: As good as Seguin has been in Dallas, the belief is that certain things would always hold him back in Boston. He wasn’t diligent enough to win board battles as a winger, an area that’s hugely important to any Julien-coached team, and Seguin's hockey IQ wasn’t high enough to function as a multi-tasking center at both ends of the ice.
Julien answered a general question in recent days about junior players learning NHL battle levels, and it sounded like some of the Seguin experience was sprinkled into the B’s coach’s answer.
“It’s very common because, first of all, they’re dealing with stronger individuals. You hear a million times that they’re not dealing with men at this level rather than with 16-year-olds at the junior level,” said Julien. “Another problem is that they’re such good players, they can get away with things at their [junior] level that they won’t get away with here.
“Sometimes it can be a benefit for those guys confidence-wise, but then it can be a challenge to make the [NHL] jump when their skill and talent alone won’t get them through.
“Then you have to teach. But we’re okay with that, and we expect it though as long as they’re not stubborn, and open-minded enough to understand they’ve got things they need to improve on. Most guys are like that. But you do get the odd player that thinks they’re good enough to play the way they have their whole life. That’s when it becomes a challenge.”
Clearly there were enough reasons on the ice to deal Seguin, but they went far beyond his stat sheet.
The Bruins brushed off an incident years ago when Seguin came to the team nervous about a female threatening to release embarrassing pictures of the B’s winger if she wasn’t paid a hefty sum of money. Too much money and too much fame in a teenager’s life can result in those kinds of situations.
But those kinds of blips popped up all over Boston’s radar screen in Seguin’s final season with the team, a timeline of Seguin debacles that occurred after he signed a guaranteed six-year contract with the Bruins which would pay him $5.75 million per season.
He wasn’t yet making that big money in his final entry-level year with the Bruins, but his off-ice lifestyle took a turn for the worse once he knew his money was guaranteed.
His first couple of seasons in Boston, Seguin hung around with his Bruins teammates, most famously Brad Marchand, or a group of friends on the BU hockey team, including Chiasson and Minnesota Wild forward Charlie Coyle.
That changed toward the end of Seguin’s sophomore season, and by last season, a group of Seguin’s buddies moved down from Toronto and made themselves a fixture in the young Bruins superstar’s life.
Seguin’s Bruins teammates tried to steer the young forward away from his new entourage, whose members didn’t have the same responsibilities as an NHL player, and were doing a little more than just going out for a couple of beers on Friday nights.
But Seguin wouldn’t listen to the team, or his teammates who had walked down similar roads in their early twenties.
“We all tried to talk to him about it,” said one current Bruins player. “He thought these guys were his support system, but in reality they were bringing him down. You’ve really got to be smart about which are your real friends once you start making a little bit of money.”
The final straw was the Bruins’ suspicion Seguin was staying out late in his native Toronto during the first round of the playoffs. A source with knowledge of the situation confirmed the Bruins did indeed need a guard outside his hotel room to make certain he was obeying the team’s playoff curfew, a report that first appeared in the Boston Herald and was denied by Seguin’s mother.
Say what you will about Chicago star Pat Kane’s hijinks with the Blackhawks, but there were never any stories of misbehavior during Chicago’s playoff runs. Once a player is off the reservation during a postseason run for a Stanley Cup-caliber team, it’s a pretty short trip to being shipped out of town.
Seguin turned it around by the time the team faced Chicago in the Cup Finals, but it was way too late by then.
All of that stuff led to Seguin’s head-scratching comments in his first Dallas press conference lamenting that he was “the only single guy" on the Bruins, and his parents' very clumsy attempts to circle the wagons for a 21-year-old adult. It seems as if the wakeup call of getting traded from Boston has reconnected Seguin with his bearings on and off the ice. It was perhaps the kind of life-altering event that was going to shake him out of the world he’d created for himself.
“We worked with him a bit this summer, and he’s been nothing but good for us,” said Mark Recchi, Seguin’s former B’s teammates and a Special Assistant to the GM for the Dallas Stars. “He’s been joined at the hip with Jamie Benn since the season started, and obviously he’s been producing quite a bit for us on the ice. Jamie is a young, single guy that Segs can go out to dinner with on off nights, but he’s also a guy that’s really got a good head on his shoulders when it comes to being a good pro.”
That was the lament in Boston: Seguin wasn’t professional enough in a league that demands it, especially in a social media age where there aren’t that many secrets anymore.
The Bruins attempted to use ordinary hockey discipline when they suspended Seguin on the road in Winnipeg for missing a morning team meeting. That issue was compounded when his teammates were forced to cover up for Seguin when the youngster concocted a lame, nonsensical fib about the time-zone change on his cellphone causing him to oversleep.
The Bruins clearly felt like things were manageable at that point in the middle of Seguin’s second season while he was en route to becoming an All-Star. But that upward trajectory didn’t last into his final year in Boston.
Seguin's regression on and off the ice in his third and final season with the Black and Gold, as much as anything else, is what led Boston to make the difficult decision to let him move on.
The Bruins into a homecoming showdown with Seguin and his Stars on Tuesday night at TD Garden.
Seguin flourishing in Dallas & why Bruins traded him
Great article Doc, thanks for sharing. Besides the juvenile partying problems, etc, there was one other very big, good reason for him to be shipped out of Boston and it has to do with teammate Nathan Horton. I don't want to put it out publicly but use your imagination.
Personally, I would have loved to see him stay in Boston but can completely understand the need to move him.
Interesting article Reverdy, thanks for posting.
I think fighting in hockey is a important part of the game since day 1. If you take it out then you are taking away a important part of history within the game itself. What needs to be more enforced is the late hits and dirty hits, not fighting. The players have always policed the game and you do that with hits (good legal hits) and fights when there are bad or dirty hits as a way to say "you better think twice before you try that s**t against out players, our team". The staged fights are what most people dont like.
Let me ask you this tho, what happens when a fight at a hockey game breaks out?
Answer: Everyone stands up to watch it, it is a rush of excitement and entertainment pure and simple.
I think fighting in hockey is a important part of the game since day 1. If you take it out then you are taking away a important part of history within the game itself. What needs to be more enforced is the late hits and dirty hits, not fighting. The players have always policed the game and you do that with hits (good legal hits) and fights when there are bad or dirty hits as a way to say "you better think twice before you try that s**t against out players, our team". The staged fights are what most people dont like.
Let me ask you this tho, what happens when a fight at a hockey game breaks out?
Answer: Everyone stands up to watch it, it is a rush of excitement and entertainment pure and simple.
Late and dirty hits do need to be eliminated more than anything, and so does stickwork (slashing and spearing). Of these, the easiest to eliminate would be the stickwork...if the NHL chose to do so, but the most important ones to get rid of are the dangerous hits which WILL kill someone one day if they're not stopped. . Fighting - no problem.
Shots On Goal: The Leafs VS. The Rest Of The League (Quality vs. Quantity)
Excellent Article about this
By: Kevin McGran Sports Reporter, Published on Wed Nov 06 2013
Shots, goals, wins, losses. It all boils down to numbers. And if the numbers don’t lie, well, there’s good news about the Maple Leafs at the 15-game mark. The goaltending is great. The shooters, well, they may well be spectacular. Team defence? Not as bad as you might think. With the help of statistician Andrew Bailey, we break down the numbers starting with the premise that shots from 20 feet are more dangerous than shots from beyond that range. Why? Because more goals (56 per cent) are scored from in close, “the dirty areas.” All stats include last weekend’s games and shootouts:
OFFENCE
The Leafs indeed go to the dirty areas and are rewarded handsomely. Overall, 56 per cent of NHL goals this season have come from 20 feet in (682 of 1,212). The Leafs are far above that — 61 per cent (30 of 49) in that area. That means they are getting the puck in deep more often before taking a shot or pouncing on a rebound. The team as a whole is taking fewer low-percentage shots. Similarly, they have allowed only 50 per cent of their goals against (18 of 36) from less than 20 feet, more a credit to their goaltending than team defence. That, of course, means that 50 per cent of the goals against come from beyond 20 feet, above the league average of 44 per cent.
DEFENCE
Those who defend the Leafs’ approach to team defence say it’s successful because defenders collapse around the goalie, forcing opponents to take low-percentage shots from a distance. That appears to be just what’s happening. League-wide, 30 per cent of all shots on net come from 20 feet in (3,901 of 13,065). But Leaf opponents only manage to take 25 per cent of their shots on goal from in close (141 of 553). The reasons include better shot blocking, clearing of rebounds and forcing opponents to the outside. Overall, NHL teams take 70 per cent of shots (9,164 of 13,065) from beyond 20 feet. But against the Leafs, it’s 75 per cent. So those extra shots faced by James Reimer and Jonathan Bernier are more often coming from a distance.
GOALTENDING
The best news for the Leafs is in net. Of the 141 shots from in close, only 18 have gone in, a stingy 13 per cent success rate. The overall league mark is 17 per cent (682 of 3,901). Also, of the 412 shots Leaf netminders have faced from beyond 20 feet, only four per cent (18) have found the twine. The league average is six per cent (528 of 9,164).
A COACH’S TAKE
Former Leafs coach Pat Quinn isn’t overly concerned about the current club’s negative shot differential. His teams were often outshot, just not by such a wide margin. “I learned a long time ago that you look at where the shots are coming from. The number of shots at the net is less important. There are some coaches that say: ‘Throw it at the net.’ That’s their way of giving the puck up.” Added Quinn: “The team that won four straight Stanley Cups in Long Island, they didn’t care if they got outshot. They were looking for their quality of shot. They’d hold the puck until they put it in the right spot.”
LEAFS BY THE NUMBERS
League shooters inside 20 feet:
SHOTS: 3,901
GOALS: 682
PERCENTAGE: 17 per cent
Leaf shooters from inside 20 feet:
SHOTS: 124
GOALS: 30
PERCENTAGE: 24 per cent
Opposing shooters inside 20 feet:
SHOTS: 141
GOALS: 18
PERCENTAGE: 13 per cent
League-wide, 30 per cent of shots come from inside 20 feet. The Leafs are holding the league to 25 per cent (141 of 553).
League shooters from beyond 20 feet:
SHOTS: 9,164
GOALS: 528
PERCENTAGE: Six per cent
Leaf shooters from beyond 20 feet:
SHOTS: 270
GOALS: 19
PERCENTAGE: Seven per cent
Opposing shooters from beyond 20 feet:
SHOTS: 412
GOALS: 18
PERCENTAGE: Four per cent
http://www.thestar.com/sports/leafs/2013/11/06/maple_leafs_shot_breakdown_reveals_good_news.html
Excellent Article about this
By: Kevin McGran Sports Reporter, Published on Wed Nov 06 2013
Shots, goals, wins, losses. It all boils down to numbers. And if the numbers don’t lie, well, there’s good news about the Maple Leafs at the 15-game mark. The goaltending is great. The shooters, well, they may well be spectacular. Team defence? Not as bad as you might think. With the help of statistician Andrew Bailey, we break down the numbers starting with the premise that shots from 20 feet are more dangerous than shots from beyond that range. Why? Because more goals (56 per cent) are scored from in close, “the dirty areas.” All stats include last weekend’s games and shootouts:
OFFENCE
The Leafs indeed go to the dirty areas and are rewarded handsomely. Overall, 56 per cent of NHL goals this season have come from 20 feet in (682 of 1,212). The Leafs are far above that — 61 per cent (30 of 49) in that area. That means they are getting the puck in deep more often before taking a shot or pouncing on a rebound. The team as a whole is taking fewer low-percentage shots. Similarly, they have allowed only 50 per cent of their goals against (18 of 36) from less than 20 feet, more a credit to their goaltending than team defence. That, of course, means that 50 per cent of the goals against come from beyond 20 feet, above the league average of 44 per cent.
DEFENCE
Those who defend the Leafs’ approach to team defence say it’s successful because defenders collapse around the goalie, forcing opponents to take low-percentage shots from a distance. That appears to be just what’s happening. League-wide, 30 per cent of all shots on net come from 20 feet in (3,901 of 13,065). But Leaf opponents only manage to take 25 per cent of their shots on goal from in close (141 of 553). The reasons include better shot blocking, clearing of rebounds and forcing opponents to the outside. Overall, NHL teams take 70 per cent of shots (9,164 of 13,065) from beyond 20 feet. But against the Leafs, it’s 75 per cent. So those extra shots faced by James Reimer and Jonathan Bernier are more often coming from a distance.
GOALTENDING
The best news for the Leafs is in net. Of the 141 shots from in close, only 18 have gone in, a stingy 13 per cent success rate. The overall league mark is 17 per cent (682 of 3,901). Also, of the 412 shots Leaf netminders have faced from beyond 20 feet, only four per cent (18) have found the twine. The league average is six per cent (528 of 9,164).
A COACH’S TAKE
Former Leafs coach Pat Quinn isn’t overly concerned about the current club’s negative shot differential. His teams were often outshot, just not by such a wide margin. “I learned a long time ago that you look at where the shots are coming from. The number of shots at the net is less important. There are some coaches that say: ‘Throw it at the net.’ That’s their way of giving the puck up.” Added Quinn: “The team that won four straight Stanley Cups in Long Island, they didn’t care if they got outshot. They were looking for their quality of shot. They’d hold the puck until they put it in the right spot.”
LEAFS BY THE NUMBERS
League shooters inside 20 feet:
SHOTS: 3,901
GOALS: 682
PERCENTAGE: 17 per cent
Leaf shooters from inside 20 feet:
SHOTS: 124
GOALS: 30
PERCENTAGE: 24 per cent
Opposing shooters inside 20 feet:
SHOTS: 141
GOALS: 18
PERCENTAGE: 13 per cent
League-wide, 30 per cent of shots come from inside 20 feet. The Leafs are holding the league to 25 per cent (141 of 553).
League shooters from beyond 20 feet:
SHOTS: 9,164
GOALS: 528
PERCENTAGE: Six per cent
Leaf shooters from beyond 20 feet:
SHOTS: 270
GOALS: 19
PERCENTAGE: Seven per cent
Opposing shooters from beyond 20 feet:
SHOTS: 412
GOALS: 18
PERCENTAGE: Four per cent
http://www.thestar.com/sports/leafs/2013/11/06/maple_leafs_shot_breakdown_reveals_good_news.html
Panthers fire entire coaching staff
The Florida Panthers will have a new look behind the bench in Ottawa on Saturday afternoon.
Head coach Kevin Dineen, a former Senators winger and Ottawa native, was fired Friday morning along with assistants Gord Murphy and Craig Ramsay after the club’s 3-9-4 start.
The Panthers are No. 14 in the East.
Peter Horachek, head coach of the Panthers’ AHL affiliate in San Antonio, will take over behind the bench. He is scheduled to be on the ice this afternoon at 2 p.m. EST when Florida holds its practice at the University of Ottawa.
Scouts Brian Skrudland and John Madden have been installed as assistant coaches.
"This is one of the hardest decisions I've ever had to make," general manager Dale Tallon said on a conference call Friday morning. He added he's been "stewing with this for a long time."
Dineen will be offered the chance to stay with the organization.
"This is the first of many changes we're making," Tallon added.
As QMI Agency reported last month, the Panthers have offered pretty much every player on their roster – with the exception of its young players – up for trade.
Horachek is being brought in on an interim basis.
Panthers fire entire coaching staff
Meanwhile the idiot GM who signed Kovalev, Gomez & Thomas gets to keep his job.
The Florida Panthers will have a new look behind the bench in Ottawa on Saturday afternoon.
Head coach Kevin Dineen, a former Senators winger and Ottawa native, was fired Friday morning along with assistants Gord Murphy and Craig Ramsay after the club’s 3-9-4 start.
The Panthers are No. 14 in the East.
Peter Horachek, head coach of the Panthers’ AHL affiliate in San Antonio, will take over behind the bench. He is scheduled to be on the ice this afternoon at 2 p.m. EST when Florida holds its practice at the University of Ottawa.
Scouts Brian Skrudland and John Madden have been installed as assistant coaches.
"This is one of the hardest decisions I've ever had to make," general manager Dale Tallon said on a conference call Friday morning. He added he's been "stewing with this for a long time."
Dineen will be offered the chance to stay with the organization.
"This is the first of many changes we're making," Tallon added.
As QMI Agency reported last month, the Panthers have offered pretty much every player on their roster – with the exception of its young players – up for trade.
Horachek is being brought in on an interim basis.
Panthers fire entire coaching staff
Meanwhile the idiot GM who signed Kovalev, Gomez & Thomas gets to keep his job.
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