The next Leaf compliance buyout?
They should have kept MacArthur who has 19 points in 25 games and is +10 (and a lot cheaper @ $3.5M)
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The next Leaf compliance buyout?
They should have kept MacArthur who has 19 points in 25 games and is +10 (and a lot cheaper @ $3.5M)
The Leafs played well last night, but didn't get the breaks.
I'm still certain that the JVR goal that was refused should have counted. If not, a ton of goals scored the same way against the Leafs should not have counted (like that Malkin goal the other where he pushed the goalie into the net and then slid the puck in). That call alone, in my opinion, changed the outcome of the game.
Bernier was also weak on the 4th goal, which was scored shorthanded. Gunnarson also looked bad on that play.
The Kessel/Bozak/JVR lilne was dangerous all night long. Kessel hit the post with a backhand in an open net. He hit the post another time.
Let's just say that Carey Price seemed to do everything he could to get the Leafs back in the game. Those two goals he let in were laughable, and he's lucky not more were scored in a similar fashion. If he's Canada's #1 goalie at the Olympics, Team Canada will be in big trouble!
It was a close game, and with a few bounces going their way, the Leafs could have easily won that game.
As for the issue of compliance buyouts, MacArthur was not bought out. He was a free agent who signed with the highest bidder, Ottawa.
But i never would have bought out Mikael Grabovski. I've always liked that little warrior. He simply wasn't used properly by Carlyle.
I can't figure out why they didn't buy out John Michael Liles instead if they weren't going to play him anyway and send him to the minors. The savings they've made by shipping him to the minors are very minimal due to recent rule changes in regards to the amount of money you can save off the cap by sending a player down. Buying out Grabovski instead of JML was absolutely nuts if you ask me.
The Leafs have battled injuries and suspensions all season long and were saved by great goaltending on a regular basis. However, this can only go so far. I think it's time for Carlyle to loosen up the reigns a bit and let the players play hockey. I also think it's time to call up JML and send down Paul Ranger, whose 4 years away from the NHL have hurt his game considerably. I'd also consider sitting Mark Frasier, who hasn't played well all season long. I hope he thinks twice next time about holding out for more money. As i've said in the past, he should get on his knees every day and thank god for Randy Carlyle giving him an NHL job. Right now, he's on the fence between the minors and the NHL. Playing Frasier and Rangers instead of the offensively gifted (and a great guy!) John Michael Liles is a travesty!
As for Todd Bertuzzi, i wasn't even aware he was still playing hockey. Alfredsson's success doesn't surprise me, which is why i have him in my hockey pool. The Senators dearly miss his leadership and hockey skills.
p.s. Nazem Kadri also has to wake up. Another stiff who held out for more money. If he doesn't wake up soon and start putting points on the board, he'll be lucky to get $2 million next season.
I'm still certain that the JVR goal that was refused should have counted. If not, a ton of goals scored the same way against the Leafs should not have counted (like that Malkin goal the other where he pushed the goalie into the net and then slid the puck in). That call alone, in my opinion, changed the outcome of the game.
Bernier was also weak on the 4th goal, which was scored shorthanded. Gunnarson also looked bad on that play.
The Kessel/Bozak/JVR lilne was dangerous all night long. Kessel hit the post with a backhand in an open net. He hit the post another time.
Let's just say that Carey Price seemed to do everything he could to get the Leafs back in the game. Those two goals he let in were laughable, and he's lucky not more were scored in a similar fashion. If he's Canada's #1 goalie at the Olympics, Team Canada will be in big trouble!
It was a close game, and with a few bounces going their way, the Leafs could have easily won that game.
As for the issue of compliance buyouts, MacArthur was not bought out. He was a free agent who signed with the highest bidder, Ottawa.
But i never would have bought out Mikael Grabovski. I've always liked that little warrior. He simply wasn't used properly by Carlyle.
I can't figure out why they didn't buy out John Michael Liles instead if they weren't going to play him anyway and send him to the minors. The savings they've made by shipping him to the minors are very minimal due to recent rule changes in regards to the amount of money you can save off the cap by sending a player down. Buying out Grabovski instead of JML was absolutely nuts if you ask me.
The Leafs have battled injuries and suspensions all season long and were saved by great goaltending on a regular basis. However, this can only go so far. I think it's time for Carlyle to loosen up the reigns a bit and let the players play hockey. I also think it's time to call up JML and send down Paul Ranger, whose 4 years away from the NHL have hurt his game considerably. I'd also consider sitting Mark Frasier, who hasn't played well all season long. I hope he thinks twice next time about holding out for more money. As i've said in the past, he should get on his knees every day and thank god for Randy Carlyle giving him an NHL job. Right now, he's on the fence between the minors and the NHL. Playing Frasier and Rangers instead of the offensively gifted (and a great guy!) John Michael Liles is a travesty!
As for Todd Bertuzzi, i wasn't even aware he was still playing hockey. Alfredsson's success doesn't surprise me, which is why i have him in my hockey pool. The Senators dearly miss his leadership and hockey skills.
p.s. Nazem Kadri also has to wake up. Another stiff who held out for more money. If he doesn't wake up soon and start putting points on the board, he'll be lucky to get $2 million next season.
Actually, the Leafs played very poorly. For the 23rd time in 27 games, they were not only outshot but also badly outplayed in every aspect of the game. There are good and bad "breaks" for ALL teams ALL the time, but only losers complain about "breaks". Honest people man up and realize that the better team usually wins, and they don't run for a crying towel when they lose.
FACTS: The Habs outshot the Leafs. Price had a better save percentage than Bernier. The Leafs had more power play chances yet the same number of pp goals...and even GAVE UP a shorthanded goal. Parros won his fight against Orr, and even Briere emerged victorious in his shoving match with Phaneuf. Phil Kessel was missing open nets all night long and his typically lazy approach to the defensive aspect of the game allowed Subban to score his goal. Carlyle (who apparently has never heard of time-outs) was badly outcoached by Therrien. Subban OWNED Phaneuf and Kessel all night long. The Leafs continually got away with infractions - not that it mattered, since they were demolished anyway.
In fact, the only GOOD thing about the Leaf game was that they allowed "only" 4 goals, after allowing SIX in each of their previous 2 games.
Doc, I'm disappointed to see that you haven't yet posted the updated standings. You were doing it FREQUENTLY earlier in the season and I'm sure we'd all be interested in seeing the current results to see if the standings have changed in any way now that a third of the season has passed. Come on - do us all a favor so that we can see if the early leaders are still up there at the top. Much appreciated!
Ahh, thank you so much Rev for stepping up to the plate to cover for your fellow Leaf fan. Interestingly, I see that there HAVE been some notable changes in the standings since the days when Doc used to post them here on a regular basis. Purely a coincidence, I'm sure.
First place in futility? Yes, after 46 years, Leaf fans must be used to it!
Well, I guess we no longer have to "imagine". Datsyuk has missed the last 4 games and Zetterberg has gone pointless the last 2, yet the Wings have won 4 in a row. You know what, Doc? That appears to indicate that the Wings have a LOT more going for them than their two world class talents. For starters: Franzen, Kronwall, Alfie, Nyquiist, Helm, Tatar,....
I see you and Doc drink from the same bottle. (See my previous post, replying to Doc's similar theory to yours.) In addition to what I said to Doc, you might like to know that the Monster's numbers are WAY better than Jimmy's. (Sorry, I know Howard is one of your heroes.)
Re: the Monster - Thank you, Toronto!
BTW, the correct spelling, as I have advised you on many previous occasions, is Datsyuk. (You're welcome.)
Glad to see the Monster doing well with the Red Wings. I remember the days when the likes of our little buddy JC making fun of the most knowledgable fans in hockey when they claimed Monster had very good potential to be a very good goalie.
I'd also like to point out that Pav Datsook is indeed Detroit's best player by far and it's nice to see that he's still producing at his age. He will one day be in the hall of fame, there is no doubt about it. Same with one of the players i picked in this year's hockey pool, Danny Alfredsson. I'm racking up points with this guy and it's great!
Any chances of JC, Iggy and myself attending the winter classic game together in January? On this note, the HBO cameras are about to start rolling this week. Detroit's on a roll, while the undermanned Leafs hit a bit of a snag lately. Should be great tv!
I'd also like to point out that Pav Datsook is indeed Detroit's best player by far and it's nice to see that he's still producing at his age. He will one day be in the hall of fame, there is no doubt about it. Same with one of the players i picked in this year's hockey pool, Danny Alfredsson. I'm racking up points with this guy and it's great!
Any chances of JC, Iggy and myself attending the winter classic game together in January? On this note, the HBO cameras are about to start rolling this week. Detroit's on a roll, while the undermanned Leafs hit a bit of a snag lately. Should be great tv!
That would be quite a game
I'd like to go
My friend's kid has a Zetterberg jersey I could wear.. :wave:
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Smuler
Fortunately for the Wings, and unfortunately for the Leafs, that potential only became reality when Mike Babcock and his staff nourished it.
Your friend obviously has a very intelligent child.
As you probably know, Wayne Gretzky has been quoted as saying that Zetterberg is his favorite player of the past decade.
Think of great PAST leaders in hockey and these names spring to mind: Delvecchio, Yzerman, Messier, Sakic, Clarke, Espo, maybe a few others.
Think of great CURRENT leaders in hockey and the obvious names are Zetterberg, Alfredsson and Toews.
Detroit, already missing the most skilled hockey player in the world, will now ALSO be missing its captain and the current best LEADER in hockey, Henrik Zetterberg. Henk is also one of the ten best - or maybe FIVE best - PLAYERS in the world. The Wings are also missing excellent young d-man Danny De Keyser, as well as old Todd Bertuzzi.
Obviously (except for Bertuzzi), these are tremendously huge losses, but as Detroit fans, rather than moaning, crying, and making excuses, we WELCOME the challenge, and considering our great depth we will most likely weather the storm and still be in decent position when Pav, Henk, Danny and Bert return. Go Wings Go! There will, as ALWAYS with this great franchise, be NO excuses.
Think of great CURRENT leaders in hockey and the obvious names are Zetterberg, Alfredsson and Toews.
Detroit, already missing the most skilled hockey player in the world, will now ALSO be missing its captain and the current best LEADER in hockey, Henrik Zetterberg. Henk is also one of the ten best - or maybe FIVE best - PLAYERS in the world. The Wings are also missing excellent young d-man Danny De Keyser, as well as old Todd Bertuzzi.
Obviously (except for Bertuzzi), these are tremendously huge losses, but as Detroit fans, rather than moaning, crying, and making excuses, we WELCOME the challenge, and considering our great depth we will most likely weather the storm and still be in decent position when Pav, Henk, Danny and Bert return. Go Wings Go! There will, as ALWAYS with this great franchise, be NO excuses.
Happy 53rd birthday to 'The Professor'
'The Professor' is none other than Igor Larionov, a former great Red Army (USSR), Vancouver Canucks & San Jose Sharks player.
'The Professor' is none other than Igor Larionov, a former great Red Army (USSR), Vancouver Canucks & San Jose Sharks player.
Happy 53rd birthday to 'The Professor'
'The Professor' is none other than Igor Larionov, a former great Red Army (USSR), Vancouver Canucks & San Jose Sharks player.
Quite true - except you forgot to mention that he was also - in fact, mainly - a great Red Wing. He also had stints with Florida and New Jersey.
Doc's excellent post about Igor Larionov got me to thinking about the greatest players by TEAM in NHL history. What follows is a list of my choices as the obvious ones, with no research, just the ones who immediately come to mind Thus, apologies, if I've missed any obvious choices. I'll list ALL the Original Six teams, plus some other random ones, but not all 30. Also, with very rare exceptions, the list will be players from the 1950s to the present, since for players from earlier than the 50s we have very little VISUAL evidence (tape, etc) and rely only on stories handed down through the generations. Some names will appear for more than one team, but only if they were GREAT for both teams and were not fly-by-nighters (for example, Ray Bourque is listed ONLY for Boston and Iginla is listed ONLY for Calgary, and I did NOT claim Brett Hull, Adam Oates or Luc Robitaille for the Wings). I haven't listed players like Tavares who haven't been around long enough to stake a claim to greatness. I also didn't include overrated players like Steve Shutt, Borje Salming or Wendel Clark. Here goes:
Detroit - Billy Taylor, Syd Howe, Gordie Howe, Lindsay, Abel, Delvecchio, Sawchuk, Hall, Kelly, Gadsby, Pronovost, Ullman, Frank Mahovlich, Dionne, Konstantinov, Larionov, Fedorov, Murphy, Shanahan, Hasek, Chelios, Yzerman, Lidstrom, Datsyuk, Zetterberg
Montreal - Morenz, Joliat, Maurice Richard, Henri Richard, Beliveau, Geoffrion, Plante, Harvey, Johnson, Provost, Worsley, Moore, Lach, Blake, Butch Bouchard, Savard, Robinson, Lapointe, Laperriere, Vachon, Dryden, Lafleur, Cournoyer, Lemaire, Gainey, Roy, Pete Mahovlich, Frank Mahovlich, Chelios
Boston - Shore, Bucyk, Espo, Orr, Ratelle, Bourque, Middleton, Oates, Neely, Chara, Bergeron
Chicago - Hall, Lindsay, Pilote, Bobby Hull, Mikita, Tony Esposito. Denis Savard, Larmer, Roenick, Belfour, Toews
Rangers - Bathgate, Worsley, Harvey, Ratelle, Gilbert, Hadfield, Park, Leetch, Messier, Vanbiesbrouck, Richter, Gretzky, Jagr, Lundqvist
Toronto - Kelly, Bower, Horton, Keon, Frank Mahovlich, Sittler, McDonald, Sundin (just barely for Mats!)
Islanders - Trottier, Bossy, Potvin, Smith, Goring, Gillies, Tonelli
Edmonton - Fuhr, Gretzky, Messier, Coffey, Kurri, Anderson, Moog, Ranford, Tikkanen
New Jersey - Brodeur, Stevens, Niedermayer, Claude Lemieux
Philadelphia - Clarke, Barber, Leach, McLeish, Parent, Mark Howe, Lindros, Leclair
Pittsburgh - Lemieux, Francis, Jagr, Murphy, Tocchet, Crosby, Malkin
Tampa Bay - St. Louis. Lecavalier, Richards, Stamkos
Dallas (plus pre-Dallas Minnesota North Stars) - Modano, Lehtinen, Neal Broten, Bobby Smith
Anaheim - Selanne, Kariya, Giguere
Calgary - Nilsson, Vernon, McDonald, MacInnis, Mullen, Roberts, Nieuwendyk, Fleury, Iginla
Buffalo - Perreault, Martin, Robert, Lafontaine, Mogilny, Housley, Andreychuk, Hasek
St. Louis - Hall, Berenson, Federko, Unger, Brett Hull, Oates, MacInnis
Ottawa - Alfredsson
Vancouver - Bure, Naslund, Bertuzzi, Daniel Sedin, Henrik Sedin, Luongo
LA - Dionne, Taylor, Simmer, Vachon, Murphy, Nicholls, Gretzky, Robitaille, Quick
Colorado - Sakic, Roy, Forsberg, Goulet, Stastny
Detroit - Billy Taylor, Syd Howe, Gordie Howe, Lindsay, Abel, Delvecchio, Sawchuk, Hall, Kelly, Gadsby, Pronovost, Ullman, Frank Mahovlich, Dionne, Konstantinov, Larionov, Fedorov, Murphy, Shanahan, Hasek, Chelios, Yzerman, Lidstrom, Datsyuk, Zetterberg
Montreal - Morenz, Joliat, Maurice Richard, Henri Richard, Beliveau, Geoffrion, Plante, Harvey, Johnson, Provost, Worsley, Moore, Lach, Blake, Butch Bouchard, Savard, Robinson, Lapointe, Laperriere, Vachon, Dryden, Lafleur, Cournoyer, Lemaire, Gainey, Roy, Pete Mahovlich, Frank Mahovlich, Chelios
Boston - Shore, Bucyk, Espo, Orr, Ratelle, Bourque, Middleton, Oates, Neely, Chara, Bergeron
Chicago - Hall, Lindsay, Pilote, Bobby Hull, Mikita, Tony Esposito. Denis Savard, Larmer, Roenick, Belfour, Toews
Rangers - Bathgate, Worsley, Harvey, Ratelle, Gilbert, Hadfield, Park, Leetch, Messier, Vanbiesbrouck, Richter, Gretzky, Jagr, Lundqvist
Toronto - Kelly, Bower, Horton, Keon, Frank Mahovlich, Sittler, McDonald, Sundin (just barely for Mats!)
Islanders - Trottier, Bossy, Potvin, Smith, Goring, Gillies, Tonelli
Edmonton - Fuhr, Gretzky, Messier, Coffey, Kurri, Anderson, Moog, Ranford, Tikkanen
New Jersey - Brodeur, Stevens, Niedermayer, Claude Lemieux
Philadelphia - Clarke, Barber, Leach, McLeish, Parent, Mark Howe, Lindros, Leclair
Pittsburgh - Lemieux, Francis, Jagr, Murphy, Tocchet, Crosby, Malkin
Tampa Bay - St. Louis. Lecavalier, Richards, Stamkos
Dallas (plus pre-Dallas Minnesota North Stars) - Modano, Lehtinen, Neal Broten, Bobby Smith
Anaheim - Selanne, Kariya, Giguere
Calgary - Nilsson, Vernon, McDonald, MacInnis, Mullen, Roberts, Nieuwendyk, Fleury, Iginla
Buffalo - Perreault, Martin, Robert, Lafontaine, Mogilny, Housley, Andreychuk, Hasek
St. Louis - Hall, Berenson, Federko, Unger, Brett Hull, Oates, MacInnis
Ottawa - Alfredsson
Vancouver - Bure, Naslund, Bertuzzi, Daniel Sedin, Henrik Sedin, Luongo
LA - Dionne, Taylor, Simmer, Vachon, Murphy, Nicholls, Gretzky, Robitaille, Quick
Colorado - Sakic, Roy, Forsberg, Goulet, Stastny
A wonderful day in Ranger land for arguably, the best goalie in the world over the last several seasons :
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/h...ank-rangers-agree-extension-article-1.1537091
Class act, and I'm sure the other teams are very disappointed he's not going to sign with them next year
Best Regards
Smuler
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/h...ank-rangers-agree-extension-article-1.1537091
Class act, and I'm sure the other teams are very disappointed he's not going to sign with them next year
Best Regards
Smuler
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