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lgna69xxx

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It's early.......;) Seriously, it is tho, one good week or one bad week and that "poll" changes drastically :eyebrows:
 

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it is very late to be early right now.
"It gets late early out there." - Y. Berra. Yes, it may be early, but a look at the standings will tell you that the Toronto entry is already in mid-season form.

I assume that Subban will not be getting the entire sum, that his 2012-2013 salary will be pro-rated for the short season.
 

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Oui, obviously


Pk signed for less becasue the longer this went the worse it would be for him in the long run, both to get a bigger deal and also to stay in Mtl where he insists he wants to be.
I assume that Subban will not be getting the entire sum, that his 2012-2013 salary will be pro-rated for the short season.
 

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Speaking of the Bruins, I am reading a really excellent book about former Bruins star Derek Sanderson, who was a key player on the Bruins 1970 and 1972 Stanley Cup teams. The book is called "Crossing the Line." I read it has been on the bestseller list in Canada for 3 months and that Ed Burns, a well known independent filmmaker who made "Brothers McMullen" and starred in Saving Private Ryan, is making a movie based on the book which is in production. More on the book here, it's mainly about Sanderson's entire career, his struggle with alcoholism, and his ultimate conquering of the disease:

http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/cro...=pla&ean=9781600786808&isbn=9781600786808&r=1

For those who may not recall, Sanderson assisted on Bobby Orr's "flying goal" to win the 1970 Stanley Cup, a video of which can be seen here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOIlfV-XtBg

The book is filled with great hockey stories and is a very entertaining read to say the least............:thumb:

I just finished this book last night. One of the better sports books I have ever read. About 70% of the book is about Sanderson's hockey career, including his stints with the Bruins and Rangers and becoming the then highest paid professional athlete in history when he signed with the Philadelphia Blazers of the WHA for $2.65 million in 1972. The other 30% chronicles Sanderson's descent into severe alcoholism, how it derailed his career and life, how he was able to clean himself up and stay sober since 1980, and his 3 different careers after hockey: (1) as an employee of the City of Boston giving drug and alcohol awareness speeches to school children; (2) as a Boston Bruins broadcaster; and (3) his current career as a financial adviser for professional athletes (his group grew to represent 21% of NHL players as well as other professional athletes).

What makes the book different than most sports books I have read is that instead of telling stories that cast himself in a glorious light, the majority of the stories in the book cast Sanderson in an extremely unflattering light. I think that the modern day Sanderson sees the guy who was a star player for the Bruins as a different guy, and a bit of a phony as he claims he was not really the person he was portrayed to be in the 1970s media. It is a very interesting book and ultimately it is the story of redemption, not in sports, but in life. I can definitely see why Ed Burns purchased the movie rights after reading this book. It could be a very interesting "Slap Shot" type film if done right.

I highly, highly recommend this book as a must read not only for Bruins, Rangers and general hockey fans but really for anyone.
 
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PK's return

To quote PJguy

"Off topic, Subban better take his mates out and smooth things over as Markhov Gionta and Georges, the team leaders, gave him less than a resounding welcome back. Tough to button up that outgoing personality but he'd be best advised to tone it down at the outset."

From what I hear from a very reliable inside source, PK's problem is not his outgoing personality but his arrogance in the locker room and in public. He's had to be warned by bar owners for verbally abusing and disrespecting the waitresses. But then again he's not the first athlete to suffer from the "God syndrome".....hopefully he won't get as bad as Koby Bryant or Big Ben!



EDIT: We do have a Sports section with an NHL thread. Threads merged.

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Sorry Mod8, my bad. I remembered afterwards about the sports discussion forum and was actually looking for my post to correct my mistake but you beat me to it.
 

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Welcome back to the NHL, Quebec City?

Greg Jamison's deal to buy the Phoenix Coyotes could be in jeopardy.

According to The Arizona Republic, the former San Jose Sharks CEO has until the city's imposed midnight deadline (2am et/11pm pt) to come up with financing for the club, or he will lose out on the arena management deal that would see the city pay him an average of $15 million a year over 20 years to manage Jobing.com Arena.

Glendale Mayor Jerry Weiers, who was not the mayor of the city when the lease agreement was agreed to, denied an extension to Jamison when he was contacted Wednesday night by one of Jamison's attorneys.

"The bottom line is that Jamison himself hasn't talked with me," Weiers told the paper. "I do know that a group trying to help Jamison or trying to get involved with Jamison – however you want to word it – they're trying to figure out a way to keep his deal afloat."

If Jamison can't get the funding, it could once again set back a franchise that has had three previous potential owners try to buy the club since the NHL bought the team from U.S. Bankruptcy Court in 2009.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=414913
 

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After watching last night's game, i'm actually starting to believe that the Leafs might squeeze into the playoffs.

Even though Phil Kessel didn't score, he was possibly the game's best player and missed several scoring chances.

On another note, Ottawa will be without star forward Jason Spezza likely for the rest of the regular season. He recently underwent surgery for a herniated disk.

In Mtl, the Michel Therrien/P.K. Subban show is about to begin.
 

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Tim Thomas now an Islander

NEW YORK -- The New York Islanders have acquired goaltender Tim Thomas in a trade with the Boston Bruins, the teams said.

The 38-year-old Thomas led the Bruins to the Stanley Cup Championship in 2011 but has not played this season.

The trade sent back a conditional second-round pick in 2014 or 2015 to the Bruins.

The move is believed to be purely a cap-related transaction. While the Bruins receive cap space from clearing the last year of Thomas' four-year, $20 million contract from the books, the Islanders add some insurance to reach the cap floor.

A source told ESPN.com's Pierre LeBrun that Thomas still doesn't want to play this season. In addition, the Bruins did not need his permission to trade his rights; his no-trade clause disappeared after last season.

"Thomas' situation is status quo," Thomas' agent, Bill Zito, told ESPN The Magazine's Craig Custance. "As far as I know none of this had anything to do with Tim. In fact, it was news to us when we learned of it."

Assuming he does not play, Thomas will remain suspended (as he was by the Bruins), and the Islanders will not have to pay him any actual salary. Because he has a 35-plus contract, his salary cap charge counts regardless of whether he plays or not.

Thomas, a two-time Vezina Trophy winner as the NHL's top goalie, has played in 378 regular-season games -- all with the Bruins. He has gone 196-121-45 with a 2.48 goals-against average and 31 shutouts. Thomas ranks fourth on Boston's career wins list and third in shutouts,

He also has a 29-21 mark in the postseason with a 2.07 GAA and six shutouts. Thomas won the Vezina and Conn Smythe Trophy as playoff MVP when the Bruins won the Stanley Cup in 2011.

Tim Thomas traded to N.Y. Islanders

Another boneheaded move by an Islander GM. A second-round pick for a 40 year old goalie who'll never even play a game for you? Peter Chiarelli is the happiest man in the world today...not only did he steal a 2nd-round pick for a self-imposed retired goalie, but he also cleared up $5 million of cap space. Unbelievable!
 

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love him or hate him, he is one of a kind

[video=youtube;WR4i0d4Xw4g]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WR4i0d4Xw4g[/video]
 

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Phil Esposito Book

I am reading the Phil Esposito book, "Thunder and Lightning: A No BS Hockey Memoir." The book, written in 2003, has a similar organizational structure to Derek Sanderson's book "Crossing The Line", but is not quite as well written as Sanderson's book. Esposito talks about his upbringing and growth as a young hockey player in Sault Ste. Marie (called "the Soo"). He grew up in an Italian part of town, worked in the steel mill where his father worked until he was 30. Esposito said growing up, he hated the Toronto Maple Leafs because the owner would not permit any Italians on the team. He rooted for the Red Wings because he idolized Gordie Howe and there was a well known Italian player on the Red Wings at that time (I forgot his name).

Esposito readily admits he was not a great skater and was perceived to be slow. He states that in youth hockey several teams he tried out for made the players skate around the rink and after seeing Phil go twice around the rink, they would tell him to go home. Just cut him, right on the spot. Esposito said he did not start making any teams until coaches actually watched him play in games, instead of just watching him skate. In games, they would see that Espo could not skate well, but he could overcome this by just putting the puck in the net, because of his very good stickhandling ability, moves, and reflexes, enabling him to become a superior goal scorer on rebounds. Esposito compares himself to football's Emmitt Smith, who was told he was too slow, and too small, yet scored more TDs and gained more yards than anyone.

Esposito talks about how he initially became a center. It was due to filling in for an injured player and having a monster game, and after that he was always a center.

Esposito comments that he was often lauded for beating a defender twice on the same play. This is because the defenders often had the superior speed to recover, but then he would beat them once again as soon as they did so.

Espo in this book is much franker about his sex life as a young hockey player than Sanderson was in his. He talks about going to a dance and meeting a really hot girl and asking her to dance. During the dance the girl said to Espo, "do I dance like a flat tire?" And Espo said to her, "no, you dance great". The girl then said to Espo, "then will you kindly lower your jack!" Espo did not realize it, but his throbbing hard on had been rubbing up against the girl. He was so embarrassed, he said he was sorry and walked away. BTW "lowering your jack" must be a Canadian expression because I never heard it before. But I LOL when I read that one.

Espo talks about his relationship with his goalie brother Tony and the differences in personality between the two, which are considerable. Tony got a scholarship to college (Michigan Tech) while Phil was thrown out of high school.

Espo seems like quite a character. Between him and Sanderson the Boston sportswriters of the early 1970s must have had their hands full with that team. By the ways, Espo mention some sexual escapades of Sanderson that Sanderson did not mention in his own book.

I have not yet gotten to his NHL career, although Espo has already said the two biggest lows of his hockey career were being traded from the Bruins to the Rangers and getting fired by Tampa Bay and later bought out by the "fat cats" who "know shit about hockey."
 

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Esposito said growing up, he hated the Toronto Maple Leafs because the owner would not permit any Italians on the team. He rooted for the Red Wings because he idolized Gordie Howe and there was a well known Italian player on the Red Wings at that time (I forgot his name).

Young Phil was very wise: he hated the right team, rooted for the right team, and idolized the right player. Then again, who would NOT idolize the one and only Mr. Hockey?

I think the player you forgot was the great Alex Delvecchio.
 

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Hello Fellow Real Hockey Fans,

Khudobin, Bruins stifle Sabres

http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2013/02/10/khudobin-bruins-stifle-sabres/

Buffalo, NY – Anton Khudobin made 25 saves and Patrice Bergeron netted the winner early in the third period as Boston got by Buffalo, 3-1, on Sunday.

Khudobin, who only has nine NHL appearances to his credit, improved his career record to 7-1-0, including wins in both of his 2013 starts.

"It was great. I just had to stop a couple [shots] to keep it scoreless," Khudobin said. "The guys played awesome in front of me."


Ummmmmm, what a change from the last meeting with the Sabres a short time ago. It's looks like the Bruins didn't miss a beat in finding another hot goalie with a great deal of potential with Tim Thomas gone. Hell, he was right there in the Bruins system. Khudobin comes and shuts down the Sabres immediately after the same team scored 7 goals against the Bruins. Once again it looks like the Bruins have two very good goalies to call on whenever they wish.

Now the question of the day: The Bruins had a very good goalie ready to replace Thomas almost immediately. Why couldn't Burkie find just one in four years?

Note the Leafs are moving up in the playoff standings. Is this for real, or just another early season sugar shot before the usual big fall?

Cheers,

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