Ask us anything part 3

[Lunaseraphim]

I guess there is a hidden camera genre of porn but I know for sure that in certain spas there are cameras in the rooms.. Who knows what happens with what's being recorded. I also think some people are very tech savvy and could hide a camera anywhere, specially if it's an outcall situation. Filming somebody without their consent and distributing it is an assault in my opinion.. I think the SP will be grateful to find out if this was put out there without her consent. It's very jarring to see images of yourself in lingerie being stolen by websites so I can't imagine finding out that this type of content being out there

 

[LC18]

I certainly hope whoever that SP was, that you didn’t send her a lengthy email that’s as confusing as your last few posts otherwise poor girl she’s going to be more confused than anything.

 

[MCTJ]

I think it's a good idea to let her know. Some clients film providers without their consent

I agree 100%

there was a man arrested specifically for that earlier this summer (link available upon request). Shortly after, Luxury Agency added a warning to their ads. 1+1...

 

[Sylar]

I certainly hope whoever that SP was, that you didn’t send her a lengthy email that’s as confusing as your last few posts otherwise poor girl she’s going to be more confused than anything.

- He is bad with faces and saw this SP once
- The lighting and image quality of the video is bad
- The woman in the video never looks into the camera
- The voice may or may not be similar
- The body is very similar

So to summarize he saw a video of a woman having sex with the same body type as an SP he once saw. Unless that SP was the girl from Total Recall, I think the chances are pretty slim that it is the same woman. But I guess no real harm in pointing it out to her.

 

[Lunaseraphim]

- He is bad with faces and saw this SP once
- The lighting and image quality of the video is bad
- The woman in the video never looks into the camera
- The voice may or may not be similar
- The body is very similar

So to summarize he saw a video of a woman having sex with the same body type as an SP he once saw. Unless that SP was the girl from Total Recall, I think the chances are pretty slim that it is the same woman. But I guess no real harm in pointing it out to her.

as long as it's being pointed out in an empathic and caring way.

 

[Lunaseraphim]

My question to gentlemen : how long does it take you to decide to book a specific provider? I know that for example, when looking on leolist, clients are looking for something quick and easy.. But I've noticed that many clients take their time to book an indy. What determines your decision? What are some things that convince you, and what are some deal breakers for you?

 

[Sylar]

My question to gentlemen : how long does it take you to decide to book a specific provider? I know that for example, when looking on leolist, clients are looking for something quick and easy.. But I've noticed that many clients take their time to book an indy. What determines your decision? What are some things that convince you, and what are some deal breakers for you?

It depends on a lot of things:

Firstly, price point: Some will fall into the spontaneous booking range, while others need to be more thought out.

The below considerations applies to both above mentioned categories, more so however to the latter and sometimes not at all to the former:

- Reviews
- Conduct on MERB / social media if applicable
- First contact / interaction in writing

If the SP offers specialized services / kinks that I am interested in, the decision making might take longer as those need to be discussed in detail to avoid disappointment or uncomfortable situations for either party involved-

 

[AirBo]

If the SP offers specialized services / kinks that I am interested in, the decision making might take longer

Total opposite for me. I'll book in a heartbeat

 

[LC18]

Total opposite for me. I'll book in a heartbeat

If she offers anal consider her already booked by airbo

 

[Sylar]

Total opposite for me. I'll book in a heartbeat

And this my friends is the difference between a savant and a savage.

 

[AirBo]

And this my friends is the difference between a savant and a savage.

I'm not a savage

I'm a scholar

 

[AirBo]

If she offers anal consider her already booked by airbo

My behaviour is consistent. No surprises with me

 

[Lunaseraphim]

It depends on a lot of things:

Firstly, price point: Some will fall into the spontaneous booking range, while others need to be more thought out.

The below considerations applies to both above mentioned categories, more so however to the latter and sometimes not at all to the former:

- Reviews
- Conduct on MERB / social media if applicable
- First contact / interaction in writing

If the SP offers specialized services / kinks that I am interested in, the decision making might take longer as those need to be discussed in detail to avoid disappointment or uncomfortable situations for either party involved-

My question for you is, what makes someone's reviews acceptable? A lot of providers don't have reviews, and it's considered inappropriate to ask a client to review you.. Also, what is a turn off or turn on about someone's conduct on social media?

 

[jjohnston422]

My question to gentlemen : how long does it take you to decide to book a specific provider? I know that for example, when looking on leolist, clients are looking for something quick and easy.. But I've noticed that many clients take their time to book an indy. What determines your decision? What are some things that convince you, and what are some deal breakers for you?

I won't book on impulse. Just like everything else in my life, I do my homework, look at websites. Price is a factor of course but I would rather pay more and have a good feeling about a SP than rush things. I don't have a set "type" of woman I am attracted to so it is a combination of looks and personality. Not every SP is successful at showing personality on their website so that really sets things apart. After that, it is about interactions with the SP when setting things up.

Reviews really don't play a roll in it for me. I will look them up but it is more about confirming the SP is legit.

 

[Lunaseraphim]

I won't book on impulse. Just like everything else in my life, I do my homework, look at websites. Price is a factor of course but I would rather pay more and have a good feeling about a SP than rush things. I don't have a set "type" of woman I am attracted to so it is a combination of looks and personality. Not every SP is successful at showing personality on their website so that really sets things apart. After that, it is about interactions with the SP when setting things up.

Reviews really don't play a roll in it for me. I will look them up but it is more about confirming the SP is legit.

That's all perfectly reasonable and how I would go about booking a SP! Except I have a lot of colleagues that I know are real and legit and don't have reviews

 

[DouMan]

That's all perfectly reasonable and how I would go about booking a SP! Except I have a lot of colleagues that I know are real and legit and don't have reviews

In the case of no reviews as you mention the provider relies on communication skills.

You have already interested your potential client with your ad and photos being conscious that what you project is what you will attract.

You wording in your written communications will be important, again being conscious about what you project.

The last "skill" would be your voice. To seal a rendez-vous I would insist on a vocal communication. Then the tone of voice, words, background, calmness would be of importance.

 

[Lunaseraphim]

In the case of no reviews as you mention the provider relies on communication skills.

You have already interested your potential client with your ad and photos being conscious that what you project is what you will attract.

You wording in your written communications will be important, again being conscious about what you project.

The last "skill" would be your voice. To seal a rendez-vous I would insist on a vocal communication. Then the tone of voice, words, background, calmness would be of importance.

Ah, I see. It's rare that people request talking on the phone with me and I usually don't accept for obvious reasons, but I also get your point

 

[Lunaseraphim]

for me, how long it takes is proportional to cost of services (higher the cost, the pickier and more careful I am) and uncertainty around the provider.
below are factors that make a decision easier to make (some are weighted more heavily than others):
pics available (including unfiltered, non-enhanced ones) (+)
reviews available (+)
active on social media (X, OnlyFans, IG, TikTok, etc) and comports oneself well/reflects an appealing personality (+)
posts on message board(s) and comports oneself well/reflects an appealing personality (+)
has a website, ads (on reputable platforms), and non-generic, chat-GBT-generated-type self descriptions reflecting an appealing personality (+)
common interests or interests that are interesting (+) (particularly important for SPs I'm planning on spending social time with)
does duos with and/or is associated with reputable SPs (+) (doing duos is immaterial; it's more the "endorsement" effect I'm referring to)
positive word-of-mouth from other SPs I see (+)
comports themselves well in direct correspondence (including by providing timely responses when coordinating date/time) (+)
has a no review policy (-)
no pics, only obscured pics and/or overly glamorized and enhanced pics, dated pics (-)
no reviews or few reviews from obvious shills (e.g., one post accounts) (-)
most recent review is several years old (-)
no social media activity (-)
social media or message board activity but conducts themselves poorly (-) (most the SPs who post on MERB conduct themselves in a way that makes me more interested in seeing them (or seeing them again, in some cases), including you @Lunaseraphim )
zero common interests and zero interesting interests (-)
ads are only on LeoList (-)
negative word-of-mouth from other SPs I see (- or +/- (neutral)) (I take this with a grain of salt but it doesn't help)
comports themselves poorly in direct correspondence, including slow response time and flakiness (-)

that being said, sometimes this all goes out the window and I just take a more impulsive gamble because my curiosity gets the better of me. sometimes this gamble has paid off and the previously "high uncertainty" SP has become my regular.

I'm curious about this idea of talking to other SPs about a particular SP.. I don't find it a good idea to gossip personally, and some people may not get along or not have good intentions. There's a SP I have had a really bad falling out with and who really betrayed me, but for this person's safety, I would NEVER say anything negative about them. SPs don't see how others work.. Unless we do duos together, there is nothing we know about the quality of other people's service. Also we they may not like each other for various reasons. I don't think its a good idea to ask SPs for personal info about other people.. Idk.

As for people who have only posted one or two reviews, I feel like sometimes a client may really want to support a SP if they haven't had any reviews in a while or if something bad has been written about them. A lot of people have accounts on here dating from a long time and don't really post or very rarely post..

The other things you mention make complete sense, if someone only has a leolist ad, no social media, no clear pics, that's obviously not a very good sign

 

[Sylar]

My question for you is, what makes someone's reviews acceptable?

Could you elaborate on this? I am not sure i understand what you mean. But I’ll answer once you have clarified.

 

[Lunaseraphim]

Yep, you've gotten at some of the main underlying reasons for why I said I take any word-of-mouth references from an SP about another SP with a grain of salt and I'd encourage others to do the same. (And I'll just clarify that I don't actively seek out personal information about an SP (maybe what constitutes "personal information" needs to be fleshed out), and to the extent I happen to hear any, it's not typically a determining factor in whether I'll see them. In the cases for me where an SP has volunteered information about another SP, there was an existing working relationship between them, and I'm pleased to report that, at least in these cases, SPs were generally sensitive about what to share and what not to (e.g., compromising personal, sensitive information) about their colleagues because I only ever heard surface-level information (e.g., "she's gorgeous and likes when client's show up with flowers"), which is all I'm really interested in for my booking decision-making purposes (in pretty much all cases, the types of information I've heard are commonplace on most SPs ads and websites). I'm aware that industry feuds and competitive viciousness exist and I'm sure it doesn't always happen that way.) To circle back to the answer to your question, it's merely a single data point and, for the reasons you pointed out, a flawed one at that.

As for the merit of reviews from one post accounts, I'm generally always going to give more weight to reviews from accounts with a more extensive post histories. with the example you cite, while certainly a noble intention on the part of the client, one could argue that a review from a client who makes an account to write a review with the express purpose of helping to support an SP is more compromised in terms of objectivity compared to one written by an account that regularly writes reviews (there are exceptions here where, and this was a problem on the PERB board, perks-for-reviews arrangements occur behind-the-scenes).*

Edit: *But yes, wanting to support an SP and signing up to write an honest, objective review aren't necessarily mutually exclusive.

Oh I totally understand that if somebody just made an account today to write a review about a particular SP it wouldn't be trustworthy. I'm saddened that perks-for-reviews arrangements exist because a lot of clients actually don't check reviews and don't look at review boards. It's not something that I would ever think of doing personally, but I know that times are tough.. What I mean by personal information is things about the SP's personal life that could compromise their reputation or endanger their safety, for example somebody disclosing that a certain SP has an addiction or give someone's real name. I don't personally feel 100% comfortable with clients asking me questions about other SP's, however I always answer nice things because I am not someone who thinks badly of other people unless they have done something really wrong and I am not a competitive person.