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I don’t expect nothing good from that part time drama teacher, but I would expect a climate change guru like Trudeau to control his urges of flying around while leaving record breaking emissions.
So you don't expect "nothing good" but you do expect him to "control his urges of flying around". Your expectations are confusing to me. Perhaps you should just let your PM travel as is customary and appropriate for a head of state.
 

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So you don't expect "nothing good" but you do expect him to "control his urges of flying around". Your expectations are confusing to me. Perhaps you should just let your PM travel as is customary and appropriate for a head of state.
I’m just a guy making a point on a merb thread while all I can see in your reply is You, your, You, you, you…
I know it’s just typical leftist behavior of lecturing people, but one great thing is that we both know who the next Prime Minister is gonna be.
Therefore the climate change hysteria is gonna fade.
 
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So you don't expect "nothing good" but you do expect him to "control his urges of flying around". Your expectations are confusing to me. Perhaps you should just let your PM travel as is customary and appropriate for a head of state.
So you don't expect "nothing good" but you do expect him to "control his urges of flying around". Your expectations are confusing to me. Perhaps you should just let your PM travel as is customary and appropriate for a head of state.

Trudeau seem to enjoy trips in Canada along with officisl trips in Europe.
Like he is in pre-election mode.
 

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I’m just a guy making a point on a merb thread while all I can see in your reply is You, your, You, you, you…
I know it’s just typical leftist behavior of lecturing people, but one great thing is that we both know who the next Prime Minister is gonna be.
Therefore the climate change hysteria is gonna fade.
Unfortunately man-made climate change is real and will only worsen despite your denial of scientific reality.
 

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1960's - oil gone in 10 years
1970's - another ice age in 10 years
1980's - acid rain will destroy all crops in 10 years
1990's - the ozone layer will be gone in 10 years
2000 - ice caps will be gone in 10 years

NONE HAPPENED - but all resulted in MORE taxes.
 

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Why isn't China concerned about global warming?

Because they already have a communist government.
 

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1960's - oil gone in 10 years
1970's - another ice age in 10 years
1980's - acid rain will destroy all crops in 10 years
1990's - the ozone layer will be gone in 10 years
2000 - ice caps will be gone in 10 years

NONE HAPPENED - but all resulted in MORE taxes.
Exactly. It is not that we are climate change deniers, we are calling out far-left politicians for playing the people in order to put more taxes. Like Trudeau's carbon tax.


As per the Federal government website, carbon emissions remain stagnant but the government made more money. They will take an actual issue and use it to scam people by adding more taxes.

Furthermore governments all over the world want to increase the population. Trudeau brought 1.5 million people in 2022 just because he wanted more Liberal voters and to increase the government tax base. Not only does that create more poverty and make life more expensive, it causes more pollution. The logic comes down to basic math, more humans = more pollution. I think if governments were really serious about climate change, then they should stop thinking about money and be more concerned about the planet like stop giving so much money to have kids. Keep the population growth to a minimal. In 1804 the population was only 1 billion, in 1900 the world reached 1.6 billion, but in 2023 we are at 8.5 billion. That is very alarming. That means in the last 100 years the human population exploded. Not only does more humans means more cars, more consumption, it means more of the natural habitat is destroyed to make place for man made infrastructure. Vegetation is needed to clean the air. That is science.
 
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Jazzman1218

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1960's - oil gone in 10 years
1970's - another ice age in 10 years
1980's - acid rain will destroy all crops in 10 years
1990's - the ozone layer will be gone in 10 years
2000 - ice caps will be gone in 10 years

NONE HAPPENED - but all resulted in MORE taxes.
You certainly have a very vivid imagination. Too bad you can't imagine the devastating effects, both short and long term, that mankind faces due to the warming of the planet because of excessive greenhouse gases.
 
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Jazzman1218

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Exactly. It is not that we are climate change deniers, we are calling out far-left politicians for playing the people in order to put more taxes. Like Trudeau's carbon tax.


As per the Federal government website, carbon emissions remain stagnant but the government made more money. They will take an actual issue and use it to scam people by adding more taxes.

Furthermore governments all over the world want to increase the population. Trudeau brought 1.5 million people in 2022 just because he wanted more Liberal voters and to increase the government tax base. Not only does that create more poverty and make life more expensive, it causes more pollution. The logic comes down to basic math, more humans = more pollution. I think if governments were really serious about climate change, then they should stop thinking about money and be more concerned about the planet like stop giving so much money to have kids. Keep the population growth to a minimal. In 1804 the population was only 1 billion, in 1900 the world reached 1.6 billion, but in 2023 we are at 8.5 billion. That is very alarming. That means in the last 100 years the human population exploded. Not only does more humans means more cars, more consumption, it means more of the natural habitat is destroyed to make place for man made infrastructure. Vegetation is needed to clean the air. That is science.
Population overgrowth is definitely a factor that impacts climate. Yet conservatives, especially evangelicals, want to control women's bodies and force women to give birth. Let's return that right to women to make their own child-bearing decisions.
 

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Ah yes these "end of the world" scenarios techniques have been used before.
Interesting read:

Columbus and the night of the bloody moon | ScienceThe Guardianhttps://www.theguardian.com

"In 1504 while Christopher Columbus was stranded in Jamaica, he used his foreknowledge of a lunar eclipse to fool the natives into provisioning his men.
Knowledge is power. When dealing with a less scientific society, our ancestors had no qualms about using advance predictions of celestial events like eclipses to con the natives."

Ya wonder if these centuries old hoodwinking scams are being done today with advanced military grade psychiatry?
Maybe we now the natives being "colonized" by UN?
"Provisioning" means getting stuff....like money? Carbon tax?
Just an uncomfortable analogy.

As for present Quebec the "Weather pattern" has now changed to a cooler drier air mass.
The "Stagnant" high pressure zones accumulating heat in North America will soon dissipate into August.

Aside from that, this year was interesting.
Mount Washington is 3.5 hour drive south east of Montreal

Mount Washington receives snowiest June in 91 years ...USA Todayhttps

Mt. Washington records coldest wind chill in U.S. history
 

Jazzman1218

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Ah yes these "end of the world" scenarios techniques have been used before.
Interesting read:

Columbus and the night of the bloody moon | ScienceThe Guardianhttps://www.theguardian.com

"In 1504 while Christopher Columbus was stranded in Jamaica, he used his foreknowledge of a lunar eclipse to fool the natives into provisioning his men.
Knowledge is power. When dealing with a less scientific society, our ancestors had no qualms about using advance predictions of celestial events like eclipses to con the natives."

Ya wonder if these centuries old hoodwinking scams are being done today with advanced military grade psychiatry?
Maybe we now the natives being "colonized" by UN?
"Provisioning" means getting stuff....like money? Carbon tax?
Just an uncomfortable analogy.

As for present Quebec the "Weather pattern" has now changed to a cooler drier air mass.
The "Stagnant" high pressure zones accumulating heat in North America will soon dissipate into August.

Aside from that, this year was interesting.
Mount Washington is 3.5 hour drive south east of Montreal

Mount Washington receives snowiest June in 91 years ...USA Todayhttps

Mt. Washington records coldest wind chill in U.S. history
Don't confuse climate with weather. Climate is weather over a long period of time.
 

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Don't confuse climate with weather. Climate is weather over a long period of time.
I do not dispute the current trend of the global warming but:

“ The Medieval Warm Period (MWP) was a time of warm climate from about 900 A.D. to 1300 A.D. when global temperatures were apparently somewhat warmer than at present. Its effects were evident in Europe where grain crops flourished, alpine tree lines rose, many new cities arose, and the population more than doubled. The Vikings took advantage of the climatic amelioration to colonize Greenland, and wine grapes were grown as far north as England where growing grapes is now not feasible…” The Little Ice Age was a period of wide-spread cooling from around 1300 to around 1850 CE when average global temperatures dropped by as much as 2°C (3.6°F), particularly in Europe and North America. And "only" about 20,000 years ago most of the modern USA and Canada was under ice sheet hundreds of feet thick

So now on top of the natural global climate variations we have some man-made trends. The question is if the nature decides to start a new global ice age will our man-made warming effect will be seen on top of it? We don’t know. The current “global warming movement” does not ask questions and really does not care about science and supresses discussion. It is a political movement with overtones of religion that uses “science” to scare public and manipulate it. The real science does not consider any current theories as an absolute truth as it always doubts itself. This is the main property of the real science. The history of science is littered with false or some partially rightful theories. Dogmatic zealots are the poison to science. Moreover, the history of science shows that the believes of most scientists is often wrong. This is why leaps forward in the scientific understanding occurs by the effort of a few ”rebellious individuals” not the majority. My understanding is that climatologists do not yet fully understand the climate change mechanisms and thus long-term predictions should be taken with a “grain of salt”. C There is no consensus what events have triggered the recent ice age or many opposite climate fluctuations in the past. There are plenty of assumptions but it is all still very raw….
 

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Greta has a new venture and guess what! She started her own oil company! Goodby climate change and hello oil!

 

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Population overgrowth is definitely a factor that impacts climate. Yet conservatives, especially evangelicals, want to control women's bodies and force women to give birth. Let's return that right to women to make their own child-bearing decisions.
I do not understand why you even brought that up. Religious beliefs of the Conservatives is irrelevant to this topic or this thread. If you want to discuss this it best to post this in the abortion thread. Having said that, what I was talking about is if governments were serious about climate change they would stop encouraging more population growth. In Canada the Child Care Benefit is the next biggest thing after Universal Healthcare. Canada is not the only country paying people or giving lots of financial benefits to couples to have more kids.


Here is a list of countries that do this and some of them are very generous with it. How much hard working people money they stole with taxes to redistribute it to others to have kids? How fair is that? Someone worked for the money that they will never see it while someone else will get someone else's earnings. Governments turned kids into a commodity. But from carbon taxes to paying people to have more kids, we can see their true agenda is profits not climate change. They use climate change to fool people to add more taxes and make money. More taxes will not change the weather or modify human behavior which is greed. Greed is the root cause of all problems. More human population is directly proportional to more man made climate change and more destruction of natural habitat and displacement of animals and/or reduction in their population.
 
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Jazzman1218

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I do not understand why you even brought that up. Religious beliefs of the Conservatives is irrelevant to this topic or this thread. If you want to discuss this it best to post this in the abortion thread. Having said that, what I was talking about is if governments were serious about climate change they would stop encouraging more population growth. In Canada the Child Care Benefit is the next biggest thing after Universal Healthcare. Canada is not the only country paying people or giving lots of financial benefits to couples to have more kids.


Here is a list of countries that do this and some of them are very generous with it. How much hard working people money they stole with taxes to redistribute it to others to have kids? How fair is that? Someone worked for the money that they will never see it while someone else will get someone else's earnings. Governments turned kids into a commodity. But from carbon taxes to paying people to have more kids, we can see their true agenda is profits not climate change. They use climate change to fool people to add more taxes and make money. More taxes will not change the weather or modify human behavior which is greed. Greed is the root cause of all problems. More human population is directly proportional to more man made climate change and more destruction of natural habitat and displacement of animals and/or reduction in their population.
Perhaps your anti immigration comments don't belong here either. Immigration has no effect on world population, but a woman's right to decide to bear a child certainly does. Also governments aren't stealing tax dollars or encouragimg their citizens to have more children. Rather they are assisting lower income citizens who have children to reduce child poverty and help their most vulnerable citizens.
 
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Also governments aren't stealing tax dollars or encouragimg their citizens to have more children. Rather they are assisting lower income citizens who have children to reduce child poverty and help their most vulnerable citizens.
Sure it is theft, it is taken by force. If you do not pay your taxes the government sends you to jail. That is the definition of extortion. If a robber robs you and starts giving away your money to poor people is that really helping? Helping is when someone voluntarily donates their own money to a charity or directly to poor people. The government is not helping, they are using taxpayers money for political and financial gain. Like Aristotle said " The worst form of inequality is to try to make unequal things equal.” Having said that, governments give money to people to have kids because their true reason for that is to increase their tax base. When you give money away it is to encourage more child births. Each child born means a potential taxpayer from 18 to 65 years of age and even longer. They claim to want to stop climate change but as we can see the reality is those are all lies. Increasing the population will only further accelerate man made climate change.
 
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Sure it is theft, it is taken by force. If you do not pay your taxes the government sends you to jail. That is the definition of extortion. If a robber robs you and starts giving away your money to poor people is that really helping? Helping is when someone voluntarily donates their own money to a charity or directly to poor people. The government is not helping, they are using taxpayers money for political and financial gain. Like Aristotle said " The worst form of inequality is to try to make unequal things equal.” Having said that, governments give money to people to have kids because their true reason for that is to increase their tax base. When you give money away it is to encourage more child births. Each child born means a potential taxpayer from 18 to 65 years of age and even longer. They claim to want to stop climate change but as we can see the reality is those are all lies. Increasing the population will only further accelerate man made climate change.
What a typical spurious libertarian argument. "Taxation is theft." Governments have the right to tax their citizens and businesses. If you defy the law you risk punishment. That's not extortion. What trump tried to do to zelenskyy in July 2019 was extortion. Let's try to keep this thread on topic. It's about climate.
 

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What a typical spurious libertarian argument. "Taxation is theft." Governments have the right to tax their citizens and businesses. If you defy the law you risk punishment. That's not extortion. What trump tried to do to zelenskyy in July 2019 was extortion. Let's try to keep this thread on topic. It's about climate.

If the governments doesn't tax citizens, you will have to build yourself roads, highways and bridges, etc.
Or private companies will build them and make profits by charging you to use them !
 
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Back to climate after a brief libertarian derailment. July, 2023 was Earth's hottest month on record. Phoenix AZ hit at least 110 degrees for 31 straight days breaking the previous record of 18 days in 1974.
 
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