The Sad Truth: Some Escorts Think We're Losers!
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In an article which appeared yesterday in the Daily Mail newspaper in the UK, a Manhattan-based escort says clients "talk too much about their wives and children, their squash partners and colleagues and want to be told what wonderful lovers they are", but admits to feeling jealous of the wives of her handsome, well-dressed, successful Wall Street clients even though they are the victims of the infidelity. The article concludes with the escort calling all clients untrustworthy: "I can't trust any of them. They're all liars. Some nicer or cuter than others, but all liars." Here is the article:
Wall Street escort reveals how the clients she flatters are actually 'really small and bad in bed'
Wall Street escort reveals how the clients she flatters are actually 'really small and bad in bed'
You are collectively looking down on this girls, while you, yourselves, aren't that far behind in terms of the same things you look down on these women. I have met a few of you and the common theme has emerged. Uneducated, anti-social, liars, still 9 years old... and the list goes on and on. What will it take for you all to snap out of it and obtain a conscience? (no, you can't buy that for 30 minutes, not even for 1 minute)
Continue to look down on these girls and all you accomplish is to prolong your own misery.
But the bottom line is that 99% of the population thinks the same of you all and you can't hide it unless you make a chance in your own lives.
More power to the girls who rip you off. You deserve it!!
I am a dancer at what you call fs clubs.
Continue to look down on these girls and all you accomplish is to prolong your own misery.
But the bottom line is that 99% of the population thinks the same of you all and you can't hide it unless you make a chance in your own lives.
More power to the girls who rip you off. You deserve it!!
I am a dancer at what you call fs clubs.
I am very sorry to hear that she made you feel that way, being an escort myself I would never say anything like that. She may have
meant it as a compliment...meaning that you are good looking and so on but between you and I she is the last person to judge why you
called. When a man calls an escort it has nothing to do with not being able to get it for free...it has to do with being intimate with a dream
girl. Needless to say that many clients are already getting it for free, with their wife at home
meant it as a compliment...meaning that you are good looking and so on but between you and I she is the last person to judge why you
called. When a man calls an escort it has nothing to do with not being able to get it for free...it has to do with being intimate with a dream
girl. Needless to say that many clients are already getting it for free, with their wife at home
Well put. I hope I never wake up. :smile:
Quit that crappy place, become a classy independant and you'll be sure to meet some decent clients.
Hello all,
I've always said, "both sides in this hobby are equal", and I think this article says a lot to prove that statement.
Simplified, the purpose of hobby is to have fun companionship with a woman, sexual or non-sexual as you may prefer, but without the emotional or commitment complications of dating or marriage. Regardless of the great difficulty of avoiding those complications, neither side should ever forget that when the money is paid and the encounter ends, it's a BUSINESS DEAL. That's what it is after all.
When the business deal ends the two parties may never meet again. No matter what either party may have said or done to make the encounter more pleasurable with enticements that were emotional, physical, or monetary, it's still a clocked business deal with no strings attached that can end permanently with any next closing of the door. If anyone forgets that isn't it their issue.
We all know both sides break the no complications rules, and I don't think it's right or fair to do anything of the sort. But in making the encounter the best it can be I imagine both sides often say and act in ways that create complications. Some persons may be far more devious and deliberate in complicating the more sensible relationship of an encounter experience, but if either side loses sight that what is happening is a clocked business deal, then it's at least partially their own fault for keeping and believing in risky expectations, no matter how devious the other party may have been.
Yes, it's dirty to play games with allusions and promises one has no intention of fulfilling, used as leverage to get more out of the other person. I can't blame anyone for feeling betrayed and angry when the other party goes over-the-top plying the first party with committal inferences or specific promises. But part of the problem is letting yourself be deceived. While I find dishonesty unnecessary and inexcusable, forgetting it's only a business that can end when the door shuts is part of the problem.
But more generally, isn't the same kind of awareness necessary in any real relationship. How many men and women have played each other for sex, or the prospect of much more in real life? So does anyone really have any excuses for allowing themselves to be deceived when the awareness should be the norm any time, inside or outside of the hobby? I've always found it a strange contradiction that so many admire "the player" type and want to be one, but then complain about being "PLAYED!"
'One guy who was in private equity gave me $5,000 a month for four months, but then he disappeared. These men, it's like they die one day.
Well, the reason I've been going on this angle is the statement just above by the escort in the article. We can't know all of the precise circumstances involved between her and one man. She only refers to a regular amount of money and it's sudden end. But it's an indication she wasn't keeping a realistic perspective on her business, deceived or not.
...the young sex worker confesses that sometimes she can't help but feel jealous of the wives of her handsome, well-dressed, successful Wall Street clients...
Having thought that she may find a man 'who wanted something long-term,' the New Yorker realises that this is no longer a realistic goal.
According to the article she reveals feelings of jealousy, envy, and the hope of "something long term", then coming to the realization of my own point that forgetting this is a BUSINESS with relationships that not only can end suddenly without reason or excuses...but is meant to be that way. THAT'S IT'S PURPOSE!
I don't think most of those involved in this hobby on either side are "losers" any more than those outside of the hobby. It's the same situation of trying to keep a realistic perspective about what is going on between two people inside or outside of the hobby as both men and women try to discover what the other is really about inside of the person. If anything, being in the hobby should help keep perspectives real simply because the situation isn't about being real. It's fantasy.
I don't condone any kind of deceptions between two people regardless of the situation. I passed on what would have been one of the best fantasy trips of my life, with sex off the clock, just to "keep it real" (yes, even so I still wish many times I had gone). But the ones that are losers IMHO are the ones in this hobby on either side who feel they have to create gross deceptions and exploitations to enjoy themselves, or forget this is all a business arrangement with no future commitment.
Frankly, the reasons the escort in this article is complaining seems to be reasons that show she forgot she is a business provider in a business meant to be temporary. If the men played upon her wishes and hopes, the odds are she often did the same to the men. Her jealousy, envy, hopes, and expectations for more beyond her business seem to indicate she did. Her plans for herself seem to have been as dishonest to the guys as the guys who may have played her.
As I said: all equal, good and bad.
Cheers,
Merlot
I've always said, "both sides in this hobby are equal", and I think this article says a lot to prove that statement.
Simplified, the purpose of hobby is to have fun companionship with a woman, sexual or non-sexual as you may prefer, but without the emotional or commitment complications of dating or marriage. Regardless of the great difficulty of avoiding those complications, neither side should ever forget that when the money is paid and the encounter ends, it's a BUSINESS DEAL. That's what it is after all.
When the business deal ends the two parties may never meet again. No matter what either party may have said or done to make the encounter more pleasurable with enticements that were emotional, physical, or monetary, it's still a clocked business deal with no strings attached that can end permanently with any next closing of the door. If anyone forgets that isn't it their issue.
We all know both sides break the no complications rules, and I don't think it's right or fair to do anything of the sort. But in making the encounter the best it can be I imagine both sides often say and act in ways that create complications. Some persons may be far more devious and deliberate in complicating the more sensible relationship of an encounter experience, but if either side loses sight that what is happening is a clocked business deal, then it's at least partially their own fault for keeping and believing in risky expectations, no matter how devious the other party may have been.
Yes, it's dirty to play games with allusions and promises one has no intention of fulfilling, used as leverage to get more out of the other person. I can't blame anyone for feeling betrayed and angry when the other party goes over-the-top plying the first party with committal inferences or specific promises. But part of the problem is letting yourself be deceived. While I find dishonesty unnecessary and inexcusable, forgetting it's only a business that can end when the door shuts is part of the problem.
But more generally, isn't the same kind of awareness necessary in any real relationship. How many men and women have played each other for sex, or the prospect of much more in real life? So does anyone really have any excuses for allowing themselves to be deceived when the awareness should be the norm any time, inside or outside of the hobby? I've always found it a strange contradiction that so many admire "the player" type and want to be one, but then complain about being "PLAYED!"
'One guy who was in private equity gave me $5,000 a month for four months, but then he disappeared. These men, it's like they die one day.
Well, the reason I've been going on this angle is the statement just above by the escort in the article. We can't know all of the precise circumstances involved between her and one man. She only refers to a regular amount of money and it's sudden end. But it's an indication she wasn't keeping a realistic perspective on her business, deceived or not.
...the young sex worker confesses that sometimes she can't help but feel jealous of the wives of her handsome, well-dressed, successful Wall Street clients...
Having thought that she may find a man 'who wanted something long-term,' the New Yorker realises that this is no longer a realistic goal.
According to the article she reveals feelings of jealousy, envy, and the hope of "something long term", then coming to the realization of my own point that forgetting this is a BUSINESS with relationships that not only can end suddenly without reason or excuses...but is meant to be that way. THAT'S IT'S PURPOSE!
I don't think most of those involved in this hobby on either side are "losers" any more than those outside of the hobby. It's the same situation of trying to keep a realistic perspective about what is going on between two people inside or outside of the hobby as both men and women try to discover what the other is really about inside of the person. If anything, being in the hobby should help keep perspectives real simply because the situation isn't about being real. It's fantasy.
I don't condone any kind of deceptions between two people regardless of the situation. I passed on what would have been one of the best fantasy trips of my life, with sex off the clock, just to "keep it real" (yes, even so I still wish many times I had gone). But the ones that are losers IMHO are the ones in this hobby on either side who feel they have to create gross deceptions and exploitations to enjoy themselves, or forget this is all a business arrangement with no future commitment.
Frankly, the reasons the escort in this article is complaining seems to be reasons that show she forgot she is a business provider in a business meant to be temporary. If the men played upon her wishes and hopes, the odds are she often did the same to the men. Her jealousy, envy, hopes, and expectations for more beyond her business seem to indicate she did. Her plans for herself seem to have been as dishonest to the guys as the guys who may have played her.
As I said: all equal, good and bad.
Cheers,
Merlot
To any of you who wants to judge others...
We now live unfortunately in a selfish world surrounded by anger, hypocrisy, lies and flagrant injustice.
I can thank my GF now because she just cheated on me (last month) and I was able to caught her :smile:
This will give me the opportunity to get back into the hobby as I want and like someone said here...
I'll be able to have sex as I want it with someone who isn't gonna bitch for every detail, spend 90% of the time talking about her and I'll have the peace of mind that I won't have to support (both morally and financially) her once she leaves my room. (Same as what anonguy said).
I have enough experience to detect anyone who has an attitude and move on to another SP who doesn't think her clients are losers like her cuze frankly...
Judging is looking ourselves in the mirror !
I go with Rumples all the way about how stupid this thread can be ... if you think it matters what others think of you... you should stick to Santa Claus !
As for looking down at a woman... I only look down when she's acting like a bitch outside my bedroom.
Cuze in my bedroom even when she's on all four, I'm not looking,... I'm admiring her !
We now live unfortunately in a selfish world surrounded by anger, hypocrisy, lies and flagrant injustice.
I can thank my GF now because she just cheated on me (last month) and I was able to caught her :smile:
This will give me the opportunity to get back into the hobby as I want and like someone said here...
I'll be able to have sex as I want it with someone who isn't gonna bitch for every detail, spend 90% of the time talking about her and I'll have the peace of mind that I won't have to support (both morally and financially) her once she leaves my room. (Same as what anonguy said).
I have enough experience to detect anyone who has an attitude and move on to another SP who doesn't think her clients are losers like her cuze frankly...
Judging is looking ourselves in the mirror !
I go with Rumples all the way about how stupid this thread can be ... if you think it matters what others think of you... you should stick to Santa Claus !
As for looking down at a woman... I only look down when she's acting like a bitch outside my bedroom.
Cuze in my bedroom even when she's on all four, I'm not looking,... I'm admiring her !
"word" was indeed a previously banned member and has been banned once more. Thanks.
I never think that some clients are looser, unless they are treating me like shit. But the contrary is also true. There's some client that told me, YOU should pay me, or do it for free because (reasons are always differents); its my birthday soon, you should give free extras, it's the last time i'm calling you, i'm moving, I gave you an orgasm, i'm pretty sure you enjoy it too, I paid you a drink at the bar, its the price of an extra, I dont even kiss my girlfriend you are a lucky one, it's my bachelor party ... and many more. There's clients that perceived us like nymphomaniac, I have no problems with that but if you are calling me for a service, dont tell me I should do it for free, its kinda insulting. Theses clients were for the most, young, sometimes (most of the time) drunk, selfabsorb. There's bad SP and bad clients, but I find myself lucky, the ratio bad vs good is pretty low
I've spoken to many SPs and in general, like Amanda stated, I don't think they think we are losers because we call for their services.
Girls have spoken bad about clients to me, based on their behavior and actions. If the guys act rude or disrespectful or treat them like a piece of meat or are unclean, the girls think and speak of them like they are losers. If the guys are clean and are gentlemen, I've never heard a girl speak of them like they thought they were losers, just because they called an escort.
Girls have spoken bad about clients to me, based on their behavior and actions. If the guys act rude or disrespectful or treat them like a piece of meat or are unclean, the girls think and speak of them like they are losers. If the guys are clean and are gentlemen, I've never heard a girl speak of them like they thought they were losers, just because they called an escort.
Lol! I talked to many guys with that mentality. But so long as the stripper in question has a reasonable price for extras.
Most of the guys with this mentality are the young ones. But more often then not they get it for free. Many of my friends have including myself. But I never expect them to give it to me I simply ask and it up to her to give it or not and if she wants more money... then if the price is reasonable I accept it.
Merlot's lengthy post above, again, has much truth to it. People routinely forget the business aspect of this arrangement. Both SPs and clients. The only time the SPs (like the girl in the article) want to break the business deal, is when the guys are filthy rich. Do not underestimate the power of money. What, do you think Julia Roberts would have fell for Richard Gere if he were an average joe financially lol? I know numerous SPs with sugar daddies and that is the only time they get personal, with very few exceptions. Even then, it's rarely genuine.
I sometimes feel affection towards the girls more than just a one hour bang, but every time I let myself start to think there is more to the relationship, I am knocked back down to earth by some type of behavior that shows me exactly what the arrangement is. The girls want money and we want sex/companionship. It doesn't have to be cold, it can and often is a warm encounter where both parties genuinely enjoy each other. Just don't ever make the mistake of forgetting what brought you together in the first place.
Listen to my bro :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8NnE5z9L_o
Min. 4:56
"The no.1 reason... cuze you ain't her first choice !"
And stay cool cuze... escorts or not... it always comes down to this !
...and this one about mariage is soooo true...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jaqBRsTQgI&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8NnE5z9L_o
Min. 4:56
"The no.1 reason... cuze you ain't her first choice !"
And stay cool cuze... escorts or not... it always comes down to this !
...and this one about mariage is soooo true...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jaqBRsTQgI&feature=related
i almost missed your post there... was wondering when you'd chime in.
the way i see it, the newer girls and new hobbyists generally feel that the other party's a loser. each laughing at the other behind their backs. with time, each side learns to "appreciate" the symbiotic relationship... at that point the girls call us walking-ATMs and we refer to them as the Practice Goalie, the one we get as many SOG as we want and we get to shoot anywhich way we want.
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