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Hey BOYZ,

I had to withdraw my previous post because I ran out of time to correct it. Back to business.

I believe Chara is nothing but a big POS who takes away all by himself the class from Bruins which they should deserve as a top team in all aspect of the game.

People who thinks that Boston needs such a stupid player are simply bandwagon fans who aren't really proud of Boston tradition as one of the best hockey team and town.

OMG! That view is so full of crap and bold-faced bias it's ridiculous. It's only because of the singular Pacioretty incident that anyone can dream of calling him a bully. Where are all the consistent major penalties and brutality that mark a real thug/bully? Like that little rat Matt Cooke. Really, it's pathetic. At least Halloween Mike admits he just can't stand him, instead of conjuring up some nonsense no knowledgeable hockey fan would ever write. It's too obvious your post is about hate and nothing else.

Other Canadiens and Leafs fans have acknowledged his high value. Yet, because his size is so intimidating he must be a bully...yeah right. :rolleyes: What is Chara supposed to do about his size, which is beyond his control? Is he supposed to play on slippers so smaller players will stop crying about how he intimidates them. If Chara was really a thug he would have stuffed that little miss Crosby inside his own helmet for the really cheap stuff he tried with Tuukka and others including Chara.

Chara is a very big guy in a game where intimidation is part of the strategy. No player needs to give up one of his strengths because opponents have a hard time dealing with it. Otherwise the same logic would have forced Gretzky to use a much shorter stick. Is Chara also supposed to apologize for having a 108.8 mph slap shot so girly opponents won't wet themselves.

We are all proud of Chara because he is a great player and leader. Anyone who doesn't know that should actually watch a hockey game instead of just following the puck.

Chara has more talent than Laraque, but there are the same expectations that he use his size in an effective manner.

Because of his size he gets stereotyped, and people use his natural size intimidation factor as an excuse to ignore his skill and to dismiss him as a great player who knows and does his job very well.

Hummm who has a one-side view, Merlot ?

What he did against Pacioretty (could have killed him) and against the most talented NHL player (voluntarily hit him on his injured jaw OUchh) show this guy has zero morality.

You and Gentle expose your bias very clearly. The Bruins have others who are more frequently harder on opponent players like Lucic, yet not one word about him. All Gentle did was call Chara a POS and go on with typically phoney BS about retards and bandwagons. It's not hockey talk at all, just personal childish pissing. There's not one word about hockey in the entire post. You're defending that? Really? Mon Dieu!

So the Pacioretty incident is Chara's entire career? Hardly surprising from those using "Anglos" excuses. Don't forget I thought Chara should have been harshly penalized whether he meant to do what happened to Pacioretty or not. But in the NHL they let the thugs who ended Savard's career and nearly ended Crosby's keep playing. That's the fault of the fans who say that kind of extreme violence is just part of the game.

Chara will never be considered a classy player on the ice, and his modus operandi is a take no prisoners type of play and it works for him and he is a hall of famer as soon as his first chance comes up.

As far as taking a shot at Crosby's jaw that was broken this season, well if he was cleared to play w/o the protective part of the helmet he had to wear at first, then that means he is 100% healed so he is fair game for parts of the game like we saw in the video. Was it classless on Chara's part? yea i would say maybe somewhat but then again this is not the ballet boys, this is Hockey and as much as some of you in here want it to be the ballet with all your crying about big, tough, hard hitting, and the little things like this that do not get called everytime (thankfully) it never will be. Hockey should be a combo of skill and toughness and the sport in general is graceful and violent at the same time...to sum it up best, Hockey is Beautiful.....

Geeeeeez, is it possible. Twice in one millennium I have to credit...gulp...WHO...for having far more logic, sense, and class than two Montreal fans.

OMG. :(

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The Bruins have others who are more frequently harder on opponent players like Lucic, yet not one word about him.

Yeap, cause we like a lot of bruins players even hard on opponent one, but we just don't like vicious and coward ones. Chara gestures against Pacioretty and Crosby were not hard on opponent, they were ultra dangerous and coward..

Btw, the way you summarize Gentle post is dishonnest, read again his post 601, he is perfectly respectful with the Bruins.

We just don't like dangerous and coward players, no matter where they play...
 

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having far more logic, sense, and class than two Montreal fans.

This comment was useless and shows that you lose control everytime you talk about Bruins...
 

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Do you guys appreciate, or even realize that Jaromir Jagr could be closing in on his 3rd Stanley Cup, after winning his last one over 20 years ago? Or that he had a regular season of 35 points in 45 games, not too shabby at age 41? And an assist tonight.
 

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Yeah, unbelievable... And he is not on the ice just to make the number.. Some of his team-mates weren't born when he won his first Stanley Cup...

(One more stupid gestures from Chara...)
 

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He was always in good shape when he played for the Rangers

Had a 50 goal season for us

I saw him the other day on TV

He looks like Capt Crunch:lol:

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Kinda funky looking facial hair thing he has going on these days, creepy lol.... he would fit in with the "band" that is still looking for members over in the free for all thread.

Boston will not lose another game in the finals, it is basically, "ovah" nice to see seguin wake up after 17 or so games lol....
I saw him the other day on TV

He looks like Capt Crunch
 

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3 Stars according to HNIC: 1.Patrice Bergeron. 2. Tuukka Rask. 3. Tyler Seguin.

The Bruins say thank you to the appropriate parties!
 

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Leafs & Flyers front-runners to get Bernier

Jonathan Bernier is one highly coveted backup goaltender.

The 24-year-old Los Angeles King is the hottest item on the trade market right now.

The Bernier sweepstakes is likely down to the Toronto Maple Leafs and Philadelphia Flyers, according to a Tuesday report from Sportsnet.

Meanwhile, Newsday says the New York Islanders are in the mix as well, with the Kings asking for prospects and/or young players in return for Bernier.

Last week, about 10 teams were believed to be interested in Bernier’s services, according to ESPN, with a trade expected to go down before or at June 30’s draft.

Bernier, who was drafted 11th overall in 2006, played 15 games in 2012-13, finishing with a 9-3-1 record and 1.87 goals-against average. He is set to become a restricted free agent July 5.

Despite the excellent numbers, world-class goalie Jonathan Quick stands in Bernier's way in L.A. The most games he has played in one NHL season is 25 in 2010-11.

http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Hockey/NHL/2013/06/18/20909421.html
 

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Hello Gentlemen?????

I believe Chara is nothing but a big POS who takes away all by himself the class from Bruins which they should deserve as a top team in all aspect of the game.

The day this baboon will be removed from the team, it will be a huge plus in the history of the Bruins simply because winning a couple Stanley cups by using such stupid retards isn't gonna do sh!t to their already extremely good record since the beginning.

People who thinks that Boston needs such a stupid player are simply bandwagon fans who aren't really proud of Boston tradition as one of the best hockey team and town.

This guy will never come close to Bourque's reputation anyway !

Btw, the way you summarize Gentle post is dishonnest, read again his post 601, he is perfectly respectful with the Bruins.

BS!!! Above is all of post 601. Any allusion of respect is totally phoney used only to increase the insult to Chara. It goes far further insulting any Bruins fan who like Chara. Since all Boston fans like him it calls all the fans fools. It's cheap childishness.

Not surprising... Chara is not a good person. Except if you have zero morality, you can't admire such a coward player...

All we can wish is that it wasn't planned by the coach, but in my opinion it was a part of Bruin's strategy...

Make no mistake, you're worse. You say Bruins fans have "zero morality" and the team is playing a shady strategy. It couldn't be any more irresponsible and disrespectful.

So you can't defend what is indefensible..

What is "indefensible" is coming up with the cheapest insulting nonsense structured to insult any Boston fan anywhere that doesn't share your view like you are better than everyone else...this from the same guy who sees "Anglos" conspiracies to excuse losses.

This comment was useless and shows that you lose control everytime you talk about Bruins...

So your "control" is to indict everyone, including the fans with mindless insults. :lol:

I noted a rationally presented post from one member who also has shown every respect toward the Bruins without one hint of the slightest cheap equivocation, and THIS despite the brutal pain of losing a 7th game with a 3-goal lead and 8 minutes left. No one will ever accuse me of being soft on him, but when someone shows BALLS (for once) I have to say so when it contrasts so shockingly with two Montreal boys who focus on insults against A team theirs didn't even play, instead of the game. Shame!

TUUKKA RASK
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There's also an excellent team with a great defense around him, and nothing is guaranteed from this point, but where would the Bruins be without the Toronto Maple Leafs greatest gift. Tuukka has held the offensive powerhouse Penguins with a 98.5 GA percentage, and now the mighty Blackhawks to a .960 GA percentage (98.4 in the last two games), this after giving up 4 goals in the first game. If not for a badly mistaken pass in game 1 the Bruins would be up 3-0 in games.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/jun/17/stanley-cup-finals-tuukka-rask-bruins-blank-blackh/

BOSTON — The puck bounced off the post and rolled across the crease, away from the goal line. The red light flashed briefly, but replays would confirm that Tuukka Rask’s shutout streak was intact.

For the last 122 minutes, 26 seconds of the Stanley Cup finals, the Bruins goalie has prevented Chicago from scoring.

Rask made 28 more saves in Game 3 on Monday night to earn his third shutout of the postseason, leading Boston to a 2-0 victory over the Blackhawks and a 2-1 lead in the best-of-seven series.

“We ran up against some of the best goalies in the league here,” Chicago coach Joel Quenneville said. “Tonight I thought we made it rather easy on him as far as traffic and finding and seeing pucks. I think we’ve got to be better at going to the net.”

After playing four extra periods in the first two games, the Bruins made an early night of it in Game 3 with second-period goals by Daniel Paille and Patrice Bergeron.

Corey Crawford had 33 saves for a Blackhawks team playing without Marian Hossa, who was scratched just before gametime.

Game 4 is Wednesday night in Boston before the matchup of Original Six franchises returns to Chicago for a fifth game. The teams split the first two games there, with the Blackhawks winning Game 1 in triple-overtime and the Bruins stealing home-ice advantage on Paille’s goal in the first OT of the second game.

“Obviously, you go triple-overtime, (then) overtime the next game, it takes a lot of energy out of you,” Rask said. “But we’ll take a regulation win, for sure.”

This time the intrigue came before the opening faceoff instead of after the end of regulation.

Hossa and Bruins defenseman Zdeno Chara both left the ice after warmups. But while Chara needed just some stitches after a collision with teammate Milan Lucic, Hossa was dropped from the lineup with an unspecified injury.

“I was as surprised as anybody else,” Bruins coach Claude Julien said. “I can definitely tell you they lost a pretty important player on their roster, but that doesn’t mean we change our game. I think it’s important we stick with what we believe in.”

Julien said Chara slipped and “had a little gash over his eye.”

“Nothing serious,” the coach said of his captain and No. 1 defenseman, who still managed to lead the team in ice time.

Quenneville was less forthcoming with information on Hossa’s malady, sticking to the standard NHL diagnosis: Upper body.

“We’ll say ‘day-to-day.’ We’re hopeful he’ll be ready for the next game,” he said, adding that it did not happen during warmups, as had been reported on the team’s Twitter account and the TV broadcast. “It was a game-time decision after the warmup there. That’s when we made the call, after warmup.”

Hossa, who has three game-winning goals in the playoffs this year, was tied for the team lead with 15 playoff points and was third on the Blackhawks with 17 goals during the regular season.

It was a loss the Blackhawks couldn’t afford.

Not with Rask stopping everything that came his way.

The backup to Conn Smythe-winner Tim Thomas in the Bruins’ 2011 Stanley Cup run, Rask didn’t face as difficult a test as in the first period of Game 2, when the Blackhawks sent 19 shots at him but managed just one goal.

The Bruins outshot Chicago 26-18 and led 2-0 after two periods. The Blackhawks had a 10-9 edge in the third, including a late flurry on a 6-on-4 — a power play with Crawford pulled for an extra skater — that led to Bryan Bickell’s shot off the post with 42 seconds left in the game.

The puck caromed off the right post as play continued for another 30 seconds before the whistle blew and the game degenerated into fisticuffs. Chara was on top of Bickell, pounding away, and Andrew Shaw got the better of Brad Marchand.

By the time it was all sorted out, the benches were a little emptier and the scoring column for Chicago was still blank.

“You’re playing the last five minutes of the game, you know they’re going to throw everything at you that they possibly can,” Rask said. “Got the penalty there. Got a little lucky there, one save off my blade and the post.”

After a scoreless first period, the Bruins made it 1-0 when Paille slapped in the puck at 2:13 of the second, falling to one knee for extra power. It stayed that way until late in the second, when the Bruins picked up their first power plays of the game on two nearly identical sequences, with a Bruin racing to the net and a Blackhawk undercutting his skates and sending him crashing into the left post.

Boston set up its offense during the 11-second two-man advantage, and just five seconds after it expired — but before Dave Bolland was able to get back into the play — Jaromir Jagr slid one across the middle, past Lucic in the center to Bergeron on the other side; he settled it and then knocked it in.

It was Jagr’s 197th career playoff point in 199 games, moving him into sole possession of fifth place on the NHL’s all-time postseason points list.


Go Bruins GOOOOOOO!,

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One of my observations during this post-season.....

I think it's a total disgrace that Zdeno Chara wasn't even nominated for the Norris trophy. The three nominees, Subban, Suter & Letang are all offensive defensemen. They barely can play defensive hockey and it was proven during the playoffs. Chara is a team captain, a leader, plays both offense & defense extremely well, he's fearless & he's one of the big reasons his team succeeds as much as it does. Doesn't the best defensemen also have to play defense???

In my book, Zdeno Chara not only deserved a nomination, but he was in my opinion the best defenseman in the entire NHL & should have been awarded the Norris trophy. The only good thing about Subban's win is that Montreal will have no choice but to put itself in financial oblivion a year from now when they must re-sign him to his next contract. The Norris win will have increased his value, and if the habs want him to continue playing in Quebec, they'll have to overpay him in order to compensate him for his loss in revenue due to North America's biggest tax rate.
 

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Great News for All Hockey Fans

Pavel Datsyuk, as we all know, is the most skilled hockey player in the world. No one else comes close to his two-way play. He absolutely OWNS the puck whenever he's on the ice. Of course, he's also the classiest player in the NHL, following in the grand traditions of the departed Nick Lidstrom and Steve Yzerman.

It is now official that the great Kenny Holland (the second-best GM of all time) has extended Pav's contract for another 3 years, meaning Datsyuk will be a Red Wing for at least the next FOUR seasons.

Obviously, this is fabulous news for Detroit and its huge legion of fans, but it is also great news for ALL true fans of the sport, as they will have the sublime pleasure of watching this magician perform his miracles for 4 more years in the NHL.

Bravo, Mr. Holland!
 

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Nice try Doc but everyone who really followed the game this year knows that your observation doesn't make it.

The real reason why and by far is Bruins' Goalie unless you were on Mars or somethin'

Since you want to know better than those who decides who should get it... and like to talk about Subban...
Stats says it all :

Regular season :
Subban 11, 27, 38
Letang 5,33,38 (in 35 games only)
Chara is 7,12,19

Playoffs :
Subban 2,2,4 (in 5 games only)
Letang 3,13,16 (in 15 games)
Chara is 2,10,12 with 19 games played so far.

The James Norris Memorial Trophy is awarded annually to the National Hockey League's top "defense player who demonstrates throughout the season the greatest all-round ability in the position.

Thus it's not given to those who are good only at making a sucker punch, a cross check in the back of the head or foot slogging ! :D
 

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You say Bruins fans have "zero morality"

Never said such a stupid thing.

Find where I did or admit that the way you summarize others' posts is dishonnest...
 

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Toronto & Montreal to host WJC in 2015 & 2017

The world junior hockey championships are coming to Canada’s two oldest major hockey cities.

Hockey Canada has called press conferences in Toronto and Montreal for Thursday to announce the Air Canada Centre and Bell Centre are sharing the 2015 and 2017 tournaments.

It’s likely each city will host one pool each and the get the box office bonanza of Team Canada’s games, while the other receives the gold medal match, with the schedule switching in 2017.

Toronto will host the first medal round in 2015, according to a TSN report.

Putting the event in Toronto and Montreal has several advantages.

Many secondary junior and minor pro hockey rinks such as the Ricoh Coliseum in Toronto are nearby.

There is a high concentration of media in both cities that will give the Christmas holiday tournament the publicity that Hockey Canada and the International Ice Hockey Federation crave, there’s plenty of hotel space for foreign visitors and each city is within driving distance of Canadian and American hockey hotbeds.

Canada will also be hosting in 2019 and 2021 after the 2014 tourney in Malmo, Sweden.

The province of Quebec has not hosted a world junior tourney in 30 years, while Hamilton and Buffalo, N.Y., have been picked ahead of Toronto. Old Maple Leaf Gardens did host some games in 1986 when Copps Coliseum in Hamilton was the main venue, while the ACC has seen some World Cup and NHL all-star game action.

Home ice has been both a blessing and curse for Canada, which finished fourth in Ufa, Russia this year.

http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Hockey/World/2013/06/19/20912116.html
 

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Looks like there's still a little work needed to make hockey relevant in Texas. :eek:

[video=youtube;9YE4d0QaoTU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=9YE4d0QaoTU[/video]
 

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Gentlemen,

Merlot said:
You say Bruins fans have "zero morality"

Never said such a stupid thing.

Find where I did or admit that the way you summarize others' posts is dishonnest...

Not surprising... Chara is not a good person. Except if you have zero morality, you can't admire such a coward player...

There's no doubt Bruins fans admire Chara as a player and a person, which you say indicates..."zero morality". If you really didn't understand the meaning of what you wrote then you should not write when you are emotionally full of hate. I agree it was not a smart thing to say. Calling my summary "dishonest" didn't change the facts.

BRUINS LOSE:

The fact that the Bruins kept coming back to tie the game doesn't alter the fact that they allowed Chicago to draw them into the Blackhawks style of play with a shootout. Sure the Bruins showed they can make a game of it that way, but Chicago has the advantage. Still, Boston made a lot of errors on defense that were not necessarily forced, except that the type of game ran the Bruins ragged. Bad passes, failure to move opponents out from in front of the net, getting there late. Yeah Chicago caused a lot of it, but the Bruins were sloppy. I hope they take a long look at the video replay of this game.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nhl/2013/06/20/boston-bruins-stanley-cup/2443683/

BOSTON - The Stanley Cup will be on hand in Boston for Game 6 at TD Garden on Monday.

Whether the Bruins are playing with a chance to raise the Cup in front of their hometown fans, or to keep hope alive for a Game 7, will depend largely on the brand of hockey played in Chicago on Saturday.

For all the things that went right for the Bruins in Game 3's shutout win against the Blackhawks — just as many went wrong in their 6-5 overtime loss at TD Garden on Wednesday.

"It's not rocket science at this point," said Bruins goaltender Tuukka Rask, who turned away 41 of 47 shots on Wednesday. "I think they played good. We didn't play our game, for the most part. We were standing still and not doing the things we were supposed to do in order to have a chance to win a hockey game."

MORE: Blackhawks win wild Game 4

With the Stanley Cup Final tied at two games apiece, the series has become a best of three.

The Bruins, long lauded for their defensive prowess and exemplary goaltending, surrendered two more goals in Game 4 than they had allowed in any game this postseason — and one more than Chicago had in Games 1, 2, and 3 combined.

"I'm not going to sit here and complain about the high scoring," Bruins coach Claude Julien said. "The decision-making wasn't very good last night. I thought we gave them a lot of space. … We gave them too many options."

With the Bruins — who never led — forced to chase, the ice opened up and became a high-speed, high-emotion, game of trading chances. That played right into the Blackhawks' hands.

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...With the Bruins — who never led — forced to chase, the ice opened up and became a high-speed, high-emotion, game of trading chances. That played right into the Blackhawks' hands.

Merlot

Funny, I'm gonna use this one on my friends in Boston just for the kick... of asking if they think Boston isn't playing a high-speed, high-emotion game.

It's easy to understand for some players who are too old for the game like the guy who was just watching it zoom in his net but I think other Bruins players can play a high-speed and emotional game despite what some of their fans thinks.
 
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