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Was at Les FrancoFolies and missed a great game i hear, but having the choice of watching the bruins get beat or spending time enjoying downtown Montreal and the music festival, (mind you, there were beautiful girls everywhere) it was a no brainer and the bruins loss just added to the fun of the evening! Go Hawks! finish em off in beanietown!
 

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Toews has a concussion. Bergeron has a damaged spleen & he spent the night at the hospital. Considering Bergeron has been a force for the Bruins during these playoffs, i'd say that his lost will hurt more. Not only has he scored several clutch goals during these playoffs, he's their best defensive forward & rarely loses a faceoff.
 

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What about the Toews and Bergeron injuries? If you look at it as a trade of the two players I think Boston gets the better end of the deal.

Not quite,

Toews has 2 goals and 10 assists in the playoffs, very good. Bergeron has 9 goals and 6 assists. Bergeron does more to make the Bruins better than anyone else, and many say he's among the most key players in all of the NHL. If he can't play again it's a critical loss.

Patrice Bergeron taken to hospital

Boston Bruins center Patrice Bergeron played only 49 seconds in the second period of Game 5 against the Chicago Blackhawks before leaving and was taken to a Chicago area hospital.

"Patrice Bergeron has been taken to a local hospital in Chicago for observation," the Bruins said in a tweet sent during the third period.

"No update, and I think there's no concern until you get an update," Bruins coach Claude Julien said after the game. "As far as we're concerned, he's just getting evaluated right now. Not much I can say on his situation."

Bergeron, who has nine goals and six assists this postseason, appeared to be skating gingerly during a brief final shift before returning to the Bruins' bench.

He was on the ice for 6 minutes, 6 seconds in total, including nine shifts in the first period and just two in the second.

"It's just an injury that wasn't able to let him finish the game," Julien said. "He may be in next game. I'm not going there."

With the absence of Bergeron, Julien leaned heavily on the team's top line of Milan Lucic, David Krejci and Nathan Horton in the third period. That trio created chances and it led to the team's only goal in the third period on Zdeno Chara's slap shot that beat Chicago goalie Corey Crawford to the high glove side. But without Bergeron, the Bruins were lost.

"Obviously, it's tough," Krejci said. "You don't want to see one of your best players go down, especially this time of the year. We definitely missed him, especially at the end of the game when we needed to score a goal.

"It is what it is. I don't know how he feels right now, or if he'll play or not, but we really need him. If not, we're going to try to do everything we can to get a win and force Game 7."

Since the Blackhawks now have a 3-2 series advantage with Game 6 Monday in Boston, the Bruins can't focus on whether or not Bergeron will be out of the lineup.

"There's nothing we can do about it; we have to move on," goaltender Tuukka Rask said. "We have to trust the guys who will step in."

During his absence in Game 5, Julien inserted Carl Soderberg onto the team's second line as the center between Brad Marchand and Jaromir Jagr. It was Soderberg's NHL playoff debut. He hadn't played since April 28, and he was in the lineup Saturday in place of Kaspars Daugavins, who had been skating on the fourth line.

"I thought we could use him and although he had very limited experience in this league, he's still a pretty skilled player and had a good year," Julien said. "I thought if we were going to give him a shot, tonight was probably a good time for it.

"He showed me enough to be able to move into Bergy's spot. I thought he played well and although there wasn't maybe the chemistry that you see with that line usually because it's his first time. I'm certainly not disappointed in the way he played tonight."


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The loss of Bergeron is devastating to the Bruins. He's their best ALL AROUND player. Blackhawks looked good the last two games but both teams have been so evenly matched throughout the series. Every game decided by 1 goal minus the empty netter last night. That's pretty awesome. Hoping it goes to 7!!
 

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Boston had the momentum and lost it in game 4. IMHO, Chara is responsible of the lost of this momentum, conceding 5goals in this game 4 and the 2 goals they conceded in game 2 ! Not sure if the bruins who had half of the Cup in their hands after game 3 will be able to recover...
 

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Hate to give up on Frattin but you gotta give to get!

Reimer/Bernier now one of the best young 1-2 punches in all of hockey

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=426131

Wow!!!!!!!!!!!!! :eek: :eek:

All along, i thought he might be heading to Philly or somewhere else. Great news indeed!!!!! I love this trade! :thumb:

p.s. Nice to see Scrivens being part of the deal since he'll likely keep an NHL job as Quick's backup.
 

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Agreed Doc, Bernier is a Stud and according to many Kings fans, he is something special. Frattin can be replaced and upgraded by signing UFA David Clarkson if the rumors hold true. Supposedly Clarkson (local Toronto boy) loves playing in Toronto the most of any place on the road and the fact he has not re signed with NJ is a good sign. He was asked during the season about staying with the Devils and also about coming to the Leafs and his answers were along the lines that make many think he is a Leaf on July1, including hockey insider Bullet Bob McKenzie.

Also hearing a very far fetched rumor that Bernier could be flipped for a top draft pick but doubt that happens... Avs have the #1 pick and Patrick Roy is in charge now and the Av's need a stud goalie (they could flip Varlamov) and Roy and Bernier are both Quebec boys....interesting if nothing else lol

Frattin will fit right into LA's plans and replace Penner at a much reduced price and is better than Penner. Scrivy i loved as you know but i will gladly take Bernier/Reimer over Reimer/Scrivens ANYDAY!
 

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As you well know, i've been a huge David Clarkson fan for the past couple of seasons. Not only is he a great two-way player, but he's one of the league's best on faceoffs and he's very tough. I'm not surprised he hasn't signed with the Devils yet considering that team is once again having monetary problems and likely will file for bankruptcy once again. It must also be tough playing in a half-empty arena nearly everytime they play at home. Randy Carlyle would love having a player of Clarkson's stature and if it happens, it likely means that Tyler Bozak won't be re-signed.

p.s. Clarkson is also exactly what the habs would need right now. Hopefully he doesn't land there.
 

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Iggy, interesting take on the possibility of Bernier being traded to the Avs for their 1st rounder. My guess is that it likely would also cost the Leafs their own first-rounder, but if that offer would come to me, i'd take it. My #1 pick would be Nathan McKinnon.
 

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Yea McKinnon would be the stud centre the Leafs have not had since Sundin retired. With the Cap going down and the draft on June 30th, there should be lots of things happening in the next 7-10 days.
 

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Do any of you guys remember who won the Selke Trophy? Toews!

EB, do you at least know what the Selke trophy means?? It's not like he won the Art Ross! Plus, it's a popularity contest and it was nearly unanimous among obervers that Bergeron was robbed of the honor.
 

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Gentlemen,

Both great players but I think Boston needs Bergeron more than Chicago needs Toews.

Toews may be terrific, but he's not the key that Bergeron is to the team.

Boston had the momentum and lost it in game 4.

True.

IMHO, Chara is responsible of the lost of this momentum, conceding 5goals in this game 4 and the 2 goals they conceded in game 2 ! Not sure if the bruins who had half of the Cup in their hands after game 3 will be able to recover...

A few other things Chara is also responsible for:

1. Ebola Virus

2. Beiber Fever

3. 911

4. Housing Market Collapse.

5. Arab-Israeli conflict.

It looks like you want to turn Chara into the anti-Chuck Norris. It's funny. Unless you really believe one player is responsible for "conceding 5goals in this game 4 and the 2 goals they conceded in game 2 !" Maybe a little less than objective. ;)

BERGERON:

http://bostonherald.com/sports/bruins_nhl/boston_bruins/2013/06/patrice_bergeron_injury_so_painful

CHICAGO — The impact of losing a player like Patrice Bergeron is far more devastating than it would be with a lesser player. It isn’t like losing just one guy. More like three or four.

Bergeron was sent to an area hospital with an unidentified injury in the second period of last night’s Game 5, and did not return. Without him, the B’s lost, 3-1, and face a do-or-die Game 6 tomorrow night at the Garden.

If Bergeron can’t make a miraculous return — which seems pretty improbable given the fact that he left the United Center last night in an ambulance — it makes a tough challenge against a very strong opponent so much more difficult.

Because with no Bergeron the Bruins would be minus their top goalscorer in the series, the No. 1 faceoff man in the postseason, one of the strongest shutdown defensive forwards in the NHL, and a top penalty-killer.

Generally speaking, this is just a guy with a magic knack for doing big things at big moments. If the B’s hope to stay alive and come back here for a Game 7, that’s the kind of magic they’re going to need.

“You can’t replace a guy like that,” said Bruin Rich Peverley. “He’s one of the best players in the league at what he does.”

Bruins coach Claude Julien was predictably uninformative about Bergeron’s status. But presumably, the B’s would use the same plan tomorrow night that went into effect when he stiffly left the ice last night. That meant taking Carl Soderberg, who was making his NHL playoff debut as a fourth-line winger — and turning him into a second-line center.

Soderberg’s relative lack of speed makes it tough for him against an extremely fast team like the Blackhawks, but he did a pretty decent job last night — especially considering that he hadn’t played in months. The big Swede was 4-5 on faceoffs, had three hits and two shots, and showed a good stick on two backchecks to steal pucks.

“Hopefully I’m on the wing the next game, so Bergy is back,” Soderberg said.

If not, perhaps Julien would consider a broad remake of his lines. The B’s haven’t gotten much in this series from Brad Marchand (no points in five games), and Nathan Horton, believed to be playing with a painful and/or heavily braced shoulder, has just six shots and two assists. Tyler Seguin and Jaromir Jagr are still trying to break long goalscoring droughts.

This is hardly the time of year — or the back-against-the-wall predicament — that makes big changes very attractive. But desperate times do call for desperate measures. The B’s had a hard time generating a lot of top-notch scoring chances vs. a very hard-working and sound Chicago team defense.

Minus Bergeron, the task may become hopeless.

“I don’t know his status or anything, but hopefully we can get him back,” said rookie defenseman Torey Krug. “He’s a big part of our team. When you lose a guy like that, you’ve got to find a way to fill holes.”

The one area in which the loss of Bergeron clearly hurts is the faceoff circle, where the B’s were soundly whipped last night, going 24-33. David Krejci had a dreadful night, winning two and losing 11. And the Krejci line, matched all night against the No. 1 Chicago line centered by Jonathan Toews — until he, too, was knocked from the game in the second period — was on the ice for all three goals.

“Every line wants to go out and create something for your team,” said Krejci. “The last thing you want is to get scored on. Our line, we were scored on. I’m not going to say bad or good goals; it happened, and we want to get it back.”

Krejci knows he has to be better — a whole lot better — if Bergeron is done.

“Obviously it’s tough,” said Krejci. “You don’t want to see one of your best players go down, especially at this time of the year. We definitely missed him, especially at the end of the game when we needed to score a goal. But you know what? It is what it is. I don’t know how he feels right now. I don’t know if he’ll play. But we really need him. If not, we’re going to fight, we’re going to (do) everything we can to try and force a Game 7.”

Krejci was candid last night in talking about the departure of Bergeron and Toews, and the various other players who limped off the ice but were able to continue.

“It’s not just this series, it’s also the series before,” said Krejci. “Guys are banged up. It’s been a short season, 48 games, but there was no break. We basically played every other day.

“At the end of the season it’s catching up to you. You can see guys struggling a little bit. Once you’re in the final you’re trying to leave everything on the ice. There is nothing to save any energy for.”

The Bruins certainly will need an all-out effort tomorrow night in Game 6. Problem is, with one very vital piece missing from their picture, that might not be enough.


Along with Campbell, that's the second good penalty killer lost. As I said, he's a BIG loss.

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