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Rebaynia

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How would more people be doing it
Against their will and pimping become the norm? Please explain. There is currently alot of pimping now. Also where does the leave the costumer? There are plenty of places that legalized sex work.
Because I know a lot of women in abusive relationships. And if the guy knew he could use that as a way to belittle her and use her even more I have no doubt in the world he would.
I even know some who are broken up and are still being controlled by their ex by financial abuse just to maintain power over her so she can't escape.
Admittedly I have seen the dark side of many people. And I wouldn't want to think how bad it could get if they were allowed to be their darker side of themselves without society holding them accountable for their actions. Most keep themselves in check only because of what the next person would think of them.
I tend to have a pretty low oppinion of humanity as a whole, and people will often do whatever they can get away with, if they can do it without reprocutions.
 

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1) I've had a few sessions now where the SP has forgotten their lube. I think I will buy/pack a backup just in case this happens again. What's the consensus on the best type of lube (unscented silicone & water-based blend)?
Water based as silicone has an adverse reaction for condoms. But I would suggest it as an in case deal. I have my brand I like and I won't let other kinds be used on me.
2) I'd like to send my test results to SPs without implying that 1) I'm looking for BBFS (I'm not) and 2) I expect them to send me their results back (I don't). What would be the right non-awkward way to effectively communicate this?
I don't know about others, but I would think it a red flag if someone is sending me his test results. My first reaction is/would very likely be, what is he up to? And what is he expecting from sending test results? I question the intentions behind it. It won't make me any more comfortable to be with him if he did, it wouldn't lesson my barriers or what I allow in a visit, and I would fully expect he has the intentions to push my limits if he is trying to show he is safe.
 

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I understand and have acknowledged that test results are not verified proof that a client is clean on the day and time of the appointment. That was never my argument. My prior position was that sending test results can show that a client is doing regular testing and was clean at some point in time in proximity to the meeting. Yes, it’s not much and safety protocols for either party should not budge or react to it, but, until this exchange anyway, I thought it was better than the status quo, which is basically some form of “trust me bro”/“take my word for it”. SPs are the authority on what’s in the best interest of their health and safety, not me, so if you say sending the results is as good as useless, then I believe you.
Why bro? It’s a red flag for SP. Makes SP think you might have STI if you try so hard to make them think you don’t have one
I don't. If someone contacts me and I tell them I am on my womanly week off work, it means I am on my period. I am not available when I am going threw that time of the month.
I need the break anyways for my own mental health.
Yea thats refreshing and respectful The other SP talk about “hiding” their period. I rather have partners say when it might be coming and be honest and we can modify the sex practices
 
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Julia Sky

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There is no way anyone seriously believes that an SP who allows gfe (bbbj, daty, dfk) with the majority of her clients and is seeing 500+ people a year has a lower std risk profile than the average non sp.

Anyone who participates in this industry, man or woman, is going to have a higher std risk profile than someone who doesn’t, on an average basis.

BBBJ is way, way less of a risk than any type of penetration. I never got an STI as an escort (that's 8 years and counting!), but I did get one as a teenager and every single person I know who told me they got one hasn't been an escort.

I made this post on this subject, worth reading to better understand my stance.
 

Nostalgia

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“Would you like a receipt for today’s banging session sir?”

We are already expected to pay taxes like other self employed people. However, most of us don’t tell our clients. We just absorb the loss. If the government gets in my panties, I’m definitely charging you a 14.975% extra on top of my advertised rate and I’m giving you a receipt.

I guess more people would prefer being paid by debit/credit cards if it’s legal and so discretion for clients becomes an issue.

I also doubt this would make the traveling internationally situation easier for sex workers.

I know a few American students living in Montreal that don’t want to buy weed from the SQDC with their American credit card because they’re scared it will cause them problems when they return back home.

TLDR: Why do you want the government in your bedroom? Are they not f***ing you enough with other taxes and laws?


You say that as if it's a bad thing. Receipts aren't going to deter anyone. People use debit and credit cards for cams, strip clubs, massages etc etc.
Those businesses are booming. Travelling international won't be a problem at all. The way things are now if a client gets in trouble he won't be able to cross the border at all..
 

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We already pay taxes as other sex-employed workers and we already have regular health checks.

Just like with the SAQ and the SQDC, and knowing our government, we would have an STDSDQ (Société des Travailleuses(rs) du sexe du Québec) where we would have to work from and between, what, 9 to 5 maybe. I would have an employer (RIP private businesses in the sex industry — and I love my self-employment status) and no other than the government! We wouldn't work from home anymore since it had to be from selected places in the city, and if you do go on the black market, they could arrest you. If you go out with a courtesan, they could arrest you because Article 30, alinea 1.5; prostitutes can't be used in public. We, SW, wouldn't go to hotels anymore, this will become prohibited since it can't be tracked and a way to keep the regular businesses "clean of prostitution". They would take your licence on arrival, your phone number and an emergency contact.

edit: since we would prefer to keep our business private, we would have to go underground. We would still advertise online (illegally) but our ads would become even more cryptical, with so few details that it would be an even bigger hit or miss for the clients. More scammers would get in the way since no one can give enough details to be proven not a scammer. We would be resorted to going to private residences because hotels would be too dangerous, putting us in a more vulnerable position.

I understand the brothels in other countries, but it's not the best scenario either. It needs to be like any other job: most jobs aren't legal. They just "are" within the existing laws, and rights, of the country.

OK first of all there would be safe places for it just like every other country where it is legal. They Don't necessarily have to be brothels.

No job " just is". There are regulations and laws around.all of them. I can't just sell food without a license and permits or a proper location.

As far as the health checks. How does a client currently verify something like that?
 

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Because I know a lot of women in abusive relationships. And if the guy knew he could use that as a way to belittle her and use her even more I have no doubt in the world he would.
I even know some who are broken up and are still being controlled by their ex by financial abuse just to maintain power over her so she can't escape.
Admittedly I have seen the dark side of many people. And I wouldn't want to think how bad it could get if they were allowed to be their darker side of themselves without society holding them accountable for their actions. Most keep themselves in check only because of what the next person would think of them.
I tend to have a pretty low oppinion of humanity as a whole, and people will often do whatever they can get away with, if they can do it without reprocutions.

That's precisely why it needs to be regulated. Illegality favour's pimps. An SP safety needs to be taken into account. That should be the top priority as well as the clients.
 

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The only way for an escort to verify for certain that you don't have an STI would be a long, tedious and expensive process that would go as follows :

> Hire an escort for 3 months
> Go get tested together on day 1
> Take 3 months off from work to spend 100% of your time with her 24/7
> Get tested together again after 3 months and wait until those results to start living your life again

That's the only way to be sure, and obviously isn't realistic haha
Nevada brothel workers get tested with much more frequency than that. They have been rather successful keeping std's out.
 

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I agree with this. Someone letting me know they take their health seriously is delightful, I don't need extra details and certainly don't want to see someone's test results unprompted.

As, indeed, this could come off as a way to inquire about unsafe services at worst, or at best, it makes you seem clueless - nobody does that. Nobody sends their test results to an escort unprompted so I'd wonder what the motive is lol


Yes unprompted seems weird but it does seem like a reasonable thing to do for everyone involved. Safety should be the priority.
 

Rebaynia

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As far as the health checks. How does a client currently verify something like that?
They don't, and even if things were made legal, they still wouldn't as your health record is private. As of the age of 14 even a parent doesn't have access to their kids medical information unless they are granted by the child.
For those who use prelib, I have access to the latest test for proof on my phone, but at the same time if a client demanded to see it, well it is still my private information and my choice if I so choose to share it.
And if it is done threw family Dr.s then there is still no proof, as you are often told the results by the Dr, and not handed the paperwork.

No matter what happens in the future, a client will never be entitled to a SPs health information. If my family members aren't allowed what makes you think clients have any right.
 
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No job " just is". There are regulations and laws around.all of them. I can't just sell food without a license and permits or a proper location.
Exactly what I said ->
They just "are" within the existing laws, and rights, of the country.

And I don't want safe spaces to do my job or an employer. People today can choose to work for themselves and start their own company at any time, with the Internet easing the creation of websites and marketing tools, people are more than ever self-employed — plus, they can work from home. This is what I do, this is what I want to continue to do.
 

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They don't, and even if things were made legal, they still wouldn't as your health record is private. As of the age of 14 even a parent doesn't have access to their kids medical information unless they are granted by the child.
For those who use prelib, I have access to the latest test for proof on my phone, but at the same time if a client demanded to see it, well it is still my private information and my choice if I so choose to share it.
And if it is done threw family Dr.s then there is still no proof, as you are often told the results by the Dr, and not handed the paperwork.

No matter what happens in the future, a client will never be entitled to a SPs health information. If my family members aren't allowed what makes you think clients have any right.
Because they’re a client and it involves their health too? It wouldn't be asking for your entire health record. It wouldn't even necessarily be checking in with you. There are already jobs that require to get HIV tests. Not sure why this would be a problem. I would gladly do so.
 

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Because they’re a client and it involves their health too? It wouldn't be asking for your entire health record. It wouldn't even necessarily be checking in with you. There are already jobs that require to get HIV tests. Not sure why this would be a problem. I would gladly do so.
Your wife doesn't have access to your health records.
Besides it is a reason why condoms and safe precautions are involved.
Not just that, but how would you like it if you had to provide your testing information to every provider you see, as we need to make sure we aren't going to catch anything from you.

A provider who takes her work seriously, takes precautions, often many more precautions than any average civilian. Sure there may be some who might likely be super spreaders if they don't. It is what makes any form of bb services a risk, each chooses what risk level they are comfortable with.
It's up to you to decide what risks your comfortable with too.
Kind of like I would refuse to ever see anyone who ever even asked for bbfs, because even if they agreed to covered services, I am safe in assuming the risk is too great for my comfort levels at that point.

And even those jobs that do HIV testing, don't share your results with others. And don't prevent you from working. It is the persons responsibility to protect others from themselves though.
 
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Exactly what I said ->


And I don't want safe spaces to do my job or an employer. People today can choose to work for themselves and start their own company at any time, with the Internet easing the creation of websites and marketing tools, people are more than ever self-employed — plus, they can work from home. This is what I do, this is what I want to continue to do.


Even a start up at home has rules and regulations they need to follow. Comparing an online job where you have no direct contact with clients to one where you're directly in contact with them is way off.
 
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