I was being serious, and I love them, too!--though I meant it more as a general policy question. A lot of men seek acronyms and innuendo (CIM, MSOG, greek), and I've been there, but these days I often seek nonsexual experiences (in addition to playtime) that might not show up on an SP's website or be known to clients. I enjoy having a nice bottle of wine (and/or 420, nothing harder or illegal) to end the day, putting on some tunes and an easy buzz, and having a fun, lively conversation: music, the arts, this hobby, goofy stories, etc. On the one hand, this isn't especially hard to find and there are lots of ladies who (seem to) enjoy hanging out like this; on the other hand, it's most definitely *not* something that all SPs can or want to do--and I don't think it's fair of me to expect it or even ask for it. For some SPs, talking is harder work than f%^ing. Luna, I can tell from your posts out here that you're the real deal, but I can say from experience that many SPs who advertise that they love "books, fine wine, museums, organic food, and yoga" ... are indulging in creative marketing. Shocking, I know!