I see what you're saying but we all get requests for heels and lingerie and stuff like that.. I think asking the sp to keep it minimal can prevent a confusion when it comes to expectations.
It's gonna be a mixed bag just like asking women if they like beards or bodyhair. The obvious answer is some do and some don't.
Men have always generally preferred that women wear little or no makeup. Women seem to insist on doing it anyway and it seems to be more that they compete with other women to do what they think looks good regardless of what men think even though they say they are doing it to look good for guys. Guys notice the difference between the no make up look and no make up, except maybe in dark clubs. Studies have over and over again said that the biggest turn off for men is women who wear too much makeup. Also, for clarity, what a woman defines as too much makeup and what a man defines as such are two different things entirely. The man's idea of "too much makeup" is about half what a woman may define as too much makeup. Not only that, but men in relationships often resent the amount of time their partners use to apply makeup, especially just for daily routines like going to the supermarket and such. Men associate a lot of negative things with makeup in general.
Yes I am able to notice.
Sometimes it's hard to tell even for me if someone is wearing makeup because some people are so great at pulling off a very very natural look.
I know my wife was totally gorgeous without any make up, but she would never go out side the home without any.
The studies are pretty consistent, and reliable as far as that goes, but they don't really matter, and they aren't an indictment of what you like. There are guys who don't like bolt-ons, don't like tattoos or piercings, don't like certain hair colours or body types or whatever. This in no way invalidates what you like, and what you do to make yourself happy. It's true that most guys don't like much makeup. They can usually also tell if someone is wearing makeup at all. Guys are also deeply ingrained not to say anything negative about someone's makeup to them., anymore than they would usually comment directly on their weight or age. I've been around way way too many guys who hobby and in general for that even to be in question. Having said that , there are still plenty of guys who don't mind it at all and the guys you need to worry about are the ones who are going to like you for what you do and who you are, just like the other girls who indulge themselves in whatever other esthetic makes them happy. Just do you and your own thing and to Hell with anybody who doesn't like it.I don't think studies are reliable. I've met a lot of men who loved women wearing makeup, and I've met men who believed women weren't wearing makeup when they actually wore.. Or they believed that a woman was wearing little makeup, when it fact she was wearing tons of it. I've definitely said good bye to heels this year unless I'm doing an incall and keeping them on for 5 minutes.. becoming a tattoo artist means getting rid of nails, too. Maybe the next step is toning it down with the makeup
My question for SP's : I know we all started at different points in our lives and have been in the industry for a different amount of time. What were your preconceived notions about this profession before you started, and what has changed now?
Forgive me for dragging this semi-old post back to life but I'm just catching up on this thread (there's so much good stuff in here lol).
This is what I think most women do and what they should be doing, what ever makes them feel better about themselves is what counts, if somebody doesn’t like it tough shit they can see someone else.
Same here.. and honestly I'm not doing it to compete with other women.
This is good life advice that I've mostly lived by, however, us independents are each running a small business that feeds and houses us, so sometimes you have to make concessions to pay the rent.
There's some context spread over a few threads, and one of my threads got deleted for reasons unknown but long story short it comes down to: If you want more clients do what they're asking for (little or no makeup) or target your clients to reflect your preferences (less clients but better fit, and presumably experience). If you're shooting for the latter then do whatever you want and decide for yourself hpw big your boutique niche will be. You can also separate your personal esthetics from your business esthetics. In corporate speak they'd say adapted workplace behaviour. That's what they'd always tell me anyway. They'd also say that sometimes I didn't adapt enough. lol. I can't modify my behaviour enough to deal positively with the nitwits. I'd make a terrible SP.
